I must be a 10.1 then! upgrading to 11

We are shallow too in this mess, esp since we are on this site.

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hmmmmmm

Hello cats
number tens, 10.5, 9.3
I shall write a poem ....



I'm all alone in this world, she said,
Ain't got nobody to share my bed,
Ain't got nobody to hold my hand"”
The truth of the matter's
I ain't got no man.


New hair Boy opened his mouth and said,
Trouble with you is
You have not seen my new head!
look the hair on my head and use your mind
You could have me with you
All the time.
Are you blind?!

I am number 3
can't you see?
Look at me!!!


She answered, Babe, what must I do?


New Hair boy said,
Share your bed"”
And your money, too.

Guys here is one about me:

I was happy,going little bald
I asked my self,how about HT?
Browsed the web and I was sold
with more hair I shall improve me!

And if I did it, what then?
Am I to be more sexy therefore?
The sea hath fish for every man,
But I wanted to have more !!


Thus I did my mistress once,
Amaze my mind with doubt;
And popp'd a question for the nonce
To beat my brains about.

For poor catch can and occasionally be made
For one who is hot, and not too bold to care
Just as great fish can and occasionally be laid
By getting into the game with full head of hair



Whereto I thus replied:
"Each fisherman can wish
That all the seas at every tide
Were his alone to fish.


And so did IT (in vain)
But since it may not be,
Let such fisherman there to find the gain,
And leave the loss for me.


And with such luck and loss
I will content myself,
Till tides of turning time may toss
Such fishers on the shelf.


I will seat here on the bay's sands,
That every man here I may see,
for every fish they catch I clap my hands,
As once I did for me

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Originally posted by John_in_NC:
go out with her, and dump her right after sex . Tell her why too

And then when you get aids you wonk have to worry about hair loss anymore. Find yourself a partner in life that cares about herself as much as you do and live happily ever after.

My name is Michael Corleone....I am an American.....hiding in Si***** I just had a hair transplant.....some people would pay allot of money for that information....but then your daughter would loose a father with advanced hair loss.....instead of gaining a husband...with full head of hair...
and so there was a wedding...
and she lived happily to the end...

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Originally posted by bro:
How is it that we are shallow for being here in this forum, I do not really understand, can you please expound.

Its simple. We are worried about our appearance, in this case our hair loss. Worrying about things that are just visual and not meaningful is shallow.
but you can drown in 2 inches of water....

I would say someone with a really botched job, cancer treatment or weird shaped loss need it. Us with normal MBP just want to look good and pay for it.

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Originally posted by bro:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Chuckisduck:

Its simple. We are worried about our appearance, in this case our hair loss. Worrying about things that are just visual and not meaningful is shallow.
but you can drown in 2 inches of water....

There may be something far deeper than vanity for some. We are turning into a nation of looks are better than accomplishments in allot of our workforce areas. Regions in the County like the East Coast and West Coast have made personal looks more valuable than performance and it's spreading to every state in the U.S. Simply put if you are not slim, good looking and don't have a full head of hair, don't apply and don't expect promotion in many white and now blue collar jobs.

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Originally posted by bro:

quote:

Originally posted by Chuckisduck:

Its simple. We are worried about our appearance, in this case our hair loss. Worrying about things that are just visual and not meaningful is shallow.
but you can drown in 2 inches of water....

No you are not getting it. We are not worried about our hair loss. What we are worried about is that we are not experiencing a normal healthy dating life, which eventually leads to not having a married life with wife and family. Now worrying about that I would hope you would agree is not shallow. Where hair loss enters the equation, is that we attribute the reason for the non-existence of a dating life to hair loss. So do you understand now, or are you still off into some tangent space?

If I offended anyone I sincerely apologize.
I was just trying to brighten up the topic with my "poems" which I designed to make fun of me really not you guys.

I hope you are not upset.In fact why did I do it?For same reasons of course.I wish your surgery is with the most desirable outcome,both cosmeticaly and applied to dating.

It's nice to see that you have a sense of humor john36

Nice poems.

I guess I never had problems with dating and am an engineer, so my work is more important than my looks.

I understand your reasoning, but I know lots of bald guys who managed to get married without hair. I guess its just the lack of confidence attributed to hair loss. Its a tiny bit of vanity, but not nearly as much as myself when I got a HT.

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Originally posted by bro:

quote:

Originally posted by Chuckisduck:


... I guess its just the lack of confidence attributed to hair loss. ...

You are playing the "blame the victim" game. I find it hard to believe that from your world view, bald guys have absolutely no disadvantage in securing dates and wives. No bald guys I know , nor do I, have a confidence problem - I don't know how you can say that when you don't even know me. While you are at it why not blame it on me not taking showers or brushing my teeth hahahaha!

That is why I guessed it and not assumed it. Since you are on this site about hair loss and calling it being a victim, I just would guess it affects you in some way. On a different note, brushing your teeth and taking showers would help!

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I'm not trying to get into a debate about evolution here, but this is my opinion on how much women care about baldness and why:

Baldness doesn't stop anyone from getting the girl, unless it makes you feel unattractive. Lack of confidence can have a halo affect on other areas of your life that can make you less attractive, for sure. But baldness in itself has been given way, way too much weight on this thread. There are many attraction factors that are way more important.

Women are genetically programmed to be attracted by a man's social status value MUCH more than they are by the physical cues of youth and health (which imply verility) such as hair. I'm not saying hair and looks don't matter at all. I'm saying that men care more about them than women.

Men choose mates because of health and youth traits that imply fertility - waist-to-hip ratio, youthful appearance, breast size, facial symmetry, etc.

Men are programmed by our genes to reproduce with as many fertile women as possible and with women who can successfully bear our offspring. This is why breasts matter - we don't want our babies to starve. Youth matters because younger women are more fertile and survived childbirth more often. Beauty matters because it implies health and good genes. This is instinct, pure and simple.

Women are programmed to choose their mates more carefully, and to choose the 'alpha' males. 'Alphas' are leaders of their tribe and have the highest social status. They are dominant and good providers. Females are programmed to choose alpha males because for our ancestors it greatly enhanced the chance of survival for them and their offspring.

Tall and athletic men appear to be dominant and good providers, that is why women are attracted to those traits. Dominant men tend to be leaders, so height infers social status. This is also why they seem to prefer assholes, by the way - aggression + no approval seeking = dominance. But social status (leadership within the tribe) is the most prevailing indicator of social value, so even if you are short AND bald, if you are successful, ambitious, and have many friends, that will trump height and baldness. Ask Bruce Willis or Andre Agassi if they have trouble with women.

Women are still attracted to health and verility cues such as facial symmetry, and yes, even hair, but it is much less important than most men think.

I'm 5'7" and a NW5. Hair and height has never, ever been a factor in my lovelife. I've dated taller women, smart women, who I considered to be 9s and 10s. I'm married to a beautiful women who could care less about my hair. My baldness bothers ME though, because it impacts my confidence in everyday life. It makes me feel old, and I guess deep-down I don't want to get old.

Be the best at whatever you do, take good care of yourself and others, and be happy with who you are. Women are just people, and if you don't beg for their approval they'll wonder why and start seeking yours.

For dhoose75, regarding the girl who rejected you - sorry dude, but it wasn't your hair.

My two cents.


-Vasilius

I agree w/ much of what Vasilius wrote. But, the younger you are -- and the younger your dating demographic is -- the more vital of an importance hair takes on. The over-arching factor, however, is confidence and the ability to be yourself. For many, this is unfortunately impossible to realize after their locks get plundered; for some it is possible, and I would say that is the ideal route to go.

Loss of hair puts you at a disadvantage, and it's the ensuing loss of confidence that creates a vortex of hurt on your chances w/ girls.

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Thanatopsis, I agree that with very young women (teens - tweens), guys losing their hair have it tougher. The competition (other young guys) is in their physical prime and most of them have hair, so it's a disadvantage. You're right though, that the impact balding has on your confidence is what kills your dating chances, for the most part. Looks do matter, and more so to women of that age than any other.

Bro - you missed my point entirely. Men and women care about sexual and social traits. Sexuality is more important to men, social status is more important to women. That's why a hot girl will date a fat funny guy with a lot of friends who dresses like he's the boss, but you'll rarely see the reverse.

Another thing I'll add - any woman who would reject you because of your hair loss isn't worth the time of day, let alone your time.


-Vasilius