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Hair Restoration Research Forum Open Hair Loss Topics Laser hair debate closed. Laser loses|
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Honorary Real Hair Club Member |
It's been a few years now since wild claims have been made that lasers (of any power) can grow or even influence hair growth.
None of the major players including Dr. Bauman, Lexington International,nor any of the posters of this site who claim success with lasers has produced even a SINGLE credible before/after photo. Case closed. Laser is dead. Feller Medical, PC Great Neck, NY 516-487-3797 |
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Hard Core Real Hair Club Member |
Right ON Doc
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Guru Real Hair Club Member |
I see improvement on some of these. Not going from bald to a full head of hair, but certainly in line with what propecia and minoxidil do. The site claims that they all used ONLY a laser comb and dod not use minoxidil, propecia, etc.
http://www.sunetics.com/beforeafters.aspx Using laser brush since 7/26/07. Working great so far. |
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Hard Core Real Hair Club Member |
Sorry BeHappy, I still don't buy it. Sunetics website is promoting their product, period.
I would like, however, see the same results from REAL patients who are NOT on any other meds with at least HALF of the results shown on the manufacturer's website. |
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Associate Publisher and Forum Co-Moderator Follicular Grand Wizard  |
More interesting information about the laser on this thread.
Falc To learn about how I restored my hair, read my hair restoration story with pictures. See also my hair loss weblog. Learn how Physicians are Recommend on this Community ------------- As of August 4th 2007 and after approximately 4000 posts as a free patient advocate - I am the Co-Moderator and Associate Publisher of the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center and the Hair Loss Q & A Blog. Read the official announcement here. I am not a medical professional and my words should not be taken as medical advice. All opinions and views shared are my own. Learn how to subscribe to our community newsletters Proud Smile Club Member |
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Follicular Salvation Club Member |
I tried hairmax for 6 months with NO positive results . I also know a girl who went to Chicago hair and spent 3 grand with NO results,and even more recently another friend bought a laser helmet type of device off ebay used it for 4-5 months with NO results.
Does that mean its useless? I dont know you tell me. I was at a birthday party where a girl thought she was drunk after drinking 4 glasses of non -alcoholic wine. She had no idea until someone told her there was no alcohol in sparkling grape juice. Maybe its the believing the laser works that has a small placebo effect on a select few |
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Real Hair Club Member |
Also see
http://hair-restoration-info.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3466060861/m/8651037373 to dispel the myth that the FDA Clearance of HairMax constitutes some kind of official approval. |
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Hard Core Real Hair Club Member |
Cybernaut, I read your posts, great write ups
It just proves that people would do ANYTHING to make money. Snakeoils, Lasercombs, mislead FDA approved vs FDA "cleared" etc. All these scammers should be sent to prison in Syberia |
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"Bringing objective,quality hair restoration information to your door" Celestial Follicle Club Member  |
Wow,
What a surprise.. As I said from the beginning, if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, it ususally is a duck Lasercomb is another snake oil and we still havent had one poster on here who provided real life results. JOBI 1417 FUT - Dr. True 1476 FUT - Dr. True 2124 FUT - Dr. True My views are based on my personal experiences, research, and objective observations Total - 5017 FU's uncut! |
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Honorary Real Hair Club Member |
Here are the top two photos off the hairmax lasercomb site. Prime examples of deceptive marketing practices.
 What more needs to be said? When I brought up the second photo set to Mr. Michaels on a radio debate and accused him of showing the before photo with the hair wet to make it look artifically thinner than it really is, and the after photo dry to make it look artifically fuller relative to the before photo he claimed in a serious voice that it was the comb that did it and avoided any accountability to the obvious deception. That's the kind of low people these laser snakeoil salesmen are. Feller Medical, PC Great Neck, NY 516-487-3797 |
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Hard Core Real Hair Club Member |
Yup. Anyone with a small patch of thinning can mash or comb the hair around to obscure the area; this is clearly done in the first pair of photos. The before picture in the second pair actually looks better to me than the after; a wet cowlick in the crown should look considerably fuller when it's dry, but doesn't. So to me, this tactic is an utter failure. Not to say that other photos used to promote meds or even transplants don't do this, but with laser that's ALL we have to go on. Totally non-compelling evidence, unless you really want to believe it works.
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Guru Real Hair Club Member |
Of course they are! Are you saying that all HT pictures posted by the Drs on here and on their own web sites should not count for anything because it comes from them and not a "real" patient? It was said that the manufacturers hadn't produced any photographic evidence showing improvement. I showed that they have produced the evidence asked for. Your response is that doesn't count because they gave you what was asked for. Is that the best you can do to discredit it? I notice you didn't say that you didn't see improvement in the "After" pictures. Using laser brush since 7/26/07. Working great so far. |
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Guru Real Hair Club Member |
Anyone who posts on this forum and says they had a HT between 4 to 6 months ago and claims it doesn't work because they haven't seen any results, you would be saying it's too early and they have to wait a full year to evaluate it fully. Anyone who posts on this forum and says they started using Propecia between 4 to 6 months ago and claims it doesn't work because they haven't seen any results, you would be saying it's too early and they have to wait a full year to evaluate it fully. Anyone who posts on this forum and says they started using Minoxidil between 4 to 6 months ago and claims it doesn't work because they haven't seen any results, you would be saying it's too early and they have to wait a full year to evaluate it fully. So... now you and 2 friends tried laser therapy for between 4 to 6 months and with you knowing that it may take at least a year to see results with anything that works have somehow proven that laser therapy doesn't work after just 4 to 6 months. Hmm.... Why aren't you giving the same time frame for results as you would give every other method? Using laser brush since 7/26/07. Working great so far. |
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Veteran Real Hair Club Member |
I agree with doc.its absolute waste of time and money.I sold my hairmax lasercomb on ebay for 200 bucks
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My Hair Loss Weblog Honorary Real Hair Club Member |
I guess the problem I have with it, is the question "why would it work?" I've never heard any science of how it's possible it works. I know that's a narrow view, but I don't try some of the other stuff people claims will work until I at least know why it works. Propecia has some science behind it, as well as Rogaine. Transplants have been proven scientifically...If you take hair from the back and put it in the front it grows. It's a fact. How do the lasers work? I don't know. 300 'mini' grapfts by Latham's Hair Clinic - 1991 (Removed 50 plugs by Cooley 3/08.) 2750 FU 3/20/08 by Dr. Cooley Current regimen: 1.25 mg Proscar M-W-F Rogaine 5% Foam - once daily AndroGel - once daily Lipitor - 5 mg every other day Weightlifting - 2x per week Jogging - 3x per week |
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Follicular Salvation Club Member |
Be happy
The girl did go for a year,and said even the suckas that were in the waiting room every visit looked the same a year later. They gave her free laser removal on her legs when she complained that nothing changed. I have a 10x mirror and after a half a year of almost daily use I saw NO positive signs of ANY kind. My buddy just stopped because the helmet device was uncomfortable and said it did nothing, Hey if it works for you then your one of the 10 out of thousands of users that are happy with it |
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