In my opinion, this network is very fair and just. The point of argument would be the differences of opinions. This of course is par for the course.

People need to see the benefit of this site and not bash every detail. If you look close enough at any post, the vets on here strongly encourage research by the individual in question.

If this was a dishonest website they would not.. This site has save a lot of people's "heads" including my own..

Joe LOL,

Every time i see the photo of you eating your hat I nearly fall off my chair laughing!

Falc

Good evening everyone, since I passively checked this forum today and felt obliged to reply to another thread just now I might as well briefly reply to this. Thank you for your comments. As some of you know I just returned from my vacation this past Sunday and I am swamped at work and at my condo (I'm repainting). I am not trying to "go in hiding". By this Sunday I will reply and address all of your comments.

You have my word.

-Grace

Grace,

Still waiting on the official offer. I applaud you for sticking it out and argueing your points. You could be a great addition to this forum as it sounds like you have a decent knowledge of the HT industry and are one heck of a sleuth. We need a few willing to go toe to toe.

Sounds like many do want to see some photos from your doc as this is one of the only ways to validate statements of ability. I'm sure that you'll get around to things when you get the chance. Good luck with the condo.

NN

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Still waiting on the official offer.

Hey Grace is my girl remember?

Falc

Falc,

If that really was a picture of her, it certainly might increase viewers on this forum. You should ask Pat if the Co-Moderator can hire an Assistant to the Co-Moderator? You better snap her up quickly before Feller gets her. Spex will be tossed aside like yesterdays trash.


NN

lol NN

I don't need an assistant...I have my clones

Falc

An example of why I cannot win no matter what:
http://hair-restoration-info.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1466060861/m/2781025633

It's funny, I was reading this thread diligently and then I got down to the final strip of photos and... I kkinda lost tracck.. of whatt the thread was... about...

Something about hair... I think...

quote:

Grace,

Still waiting on the official offer. Smile I applaud you for sticking it out and argueing your points. You could be a great addition to this forum as it sounds like you have a decent knowledge of the HT industry and are one heck of a sleuth. We need a few willing to go toe to toe.

Sounds like many do want to see some photos from your doc as this is one of the only ways to validate statements of ability. I'm sure that you'll get around to things when you get the chance. Good luck with the condo.

NN

NervousNelly and folica,

Posters like you are *dangerously* sucking me into this forum more than I want. But hearing some supportive words from you have convinced me. I want to personally thank you.

So this is the tentatively plan. I will give an update on things this Sunday so that everyone is crystal clear on my stance. And then the following week I'll post some pics. Sorry for the delay. Reason being is that posting pics of patients on these online forums require some legal formalities and social etiquette.

In addition, my doctor doesn't know actually that I've become this involved on this forum... oops. Before I get sucked in any further I really need to ask his permission on all this. But some posters have questioned my *PERSONAL* integrity, so if need be I'll seduce the doctor in his office so that I'll be allowed to post some pics.

Talk to you again soon, NervousNelly and folica. I didn't let you down with PowerRanger, right? And I won't let you down this time either.

-Grace

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And a general side note to everyone!!! I just have to say that the testosterone level on this thread is getting out of control! You guys are bald enough without the extra DHT!!! Some of you are getting a bit too daring with your sexist comments. Please tone it down. I'm not that kinda girl.

-Grace

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Some of you are getting a bit too daring with your sexist comments. Please tone it down. I'm not that kinda girl.

Grace,

I'm not sure who you are referring to here (I know I made a couple comments like "she's my girl").

So first let me say that if my playful banter has offended you in anyway, I apologize.

But with all due respect - your initial presentation found here put me in a similar place.

"I think you are a nice, generally helpful guy and I find your muscular physique extremely hot "

"btw your new mane sure looks hot on you. May I ask if you're still single?"

"GENUINELY VERY NICE GUY and have a great new mane of hair and an EXTREMELY HOT bod that I'd glad throw myself at "

I will add that I was NOT offended by any of your remarks and was rather flattered.

However, you may want to reconsider how you present yourself if you don't want return playfulness.

Best wishes,

Bill

Hey Falc,

In a different thread, I asked you where you got the James Dean avatar. I hope that you did not misconstrue that as playful banter.

NN

NN,

ROTFL

You mean you weren't flirting with me?

Thank the Lord

Falc

I lost interest in the original post about halfway through, but...

• Yes, "Falceros" and "Jotronic" and "Spex" are paid by their respective clinics, but they are also entirely open about that fact. Absent that openess, sure, I'd be skeptical if I thought that someone were posting a glowing recommendation of a particular surgeon based on $$$ rather than the doctor's actual work...
  
• Yes, it's unfair to blast a particular clinic or doctor without backing it up, and at times people also post here when they are legitimately angry because of shoddy work that they literally have to wear on their heads, or unethical behavior from doctors that costs them thousands of dollars. There are also, at least as I've seen, many more posts from people who honestly want to learn more, and who try to share information with others as fairly and honestly as they can. My $.02 is that Pat does well at striking a balance.
  

Benjamin

OK Bill I had a bad day yesterday, alright? I'm sorry. Listen Bill, you, out of all people should understand that women can go through mood swings and become emotional especially in an alpha-male dominated community like this one. So if you feel the need to *actively* portray me as a total slut then fine I don't mind Why can't you reference some of the other nicer things I called you in my past PowerRanger thread, eh?... such as... MUFASA



(I apologize for not asking permission yet to use your pic. I will seriously stop this if you are offended)

In a more serious tone Bill, I have a job for you. Have at least 6 respected members of this forum *copy and paste* the following list of agreements enveloped in quotations below and post them on this thread. After that is done, I'll be ready to post some pics by this Sunday. Thanks. -Grace


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I completely understand that:
1). Grace was *originally* provoked to come to this forum due to a former prospective patient (PowerRanger) and I will at least consider the fact that she has good overall intentions. She truely believes that there are some educational information on this website.
2). Grace is not recommending Bosley and she is posting pictures solely because members of this community is encouraging her to do so.
3). Before/After pictures that Grace will be posting will be faceless pictures selected by her doctor and not herself due to legal formalities.
4). Graft counts, hair counts and single-hair graft incision sizes will be revealed for each photo that Grace posts.
5). Grace's doctor is not comfortable in revealing himself nor the location of his clinic.
6). I fully realize that some of the non-coalition recommended doctors of this website and even a few coalition doctors listed here:
http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/Consult-a-Physicia...nsplant-surgeons.asp
have yet to put *ONE* photo on this forum that recommends them. At the very least, Grace should be respected in doing something many recommended clinics have not.
7). After viewing the pictures posted by Grace, I will consider listening to the constructive critisms she has to say about this forum as well as try to evaluate the notion that each clinic and doctor should be considered as separate entities.
8). Most importantly after posting some pictures, Grace will be allowed to go away quietly at anytime without the need to defend her clinic or further explain herself.
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Grace,

You made me laugh out loud on that one. That's a cute picture and I'm certainly not offended.

I certainly do NOT intend to portray you like a slut as I am sure you aren't one.

In fact you remind me of one of my closest female friends with your wit and charm.

And yes, I was flattered by the majority of what you wrote in the "PowerRanger" thread - including the "genuine nice guy", "Mufasa of Pride" and all the comments about my looks!

In fact, I even said we should have dinner sometime and chat remember? .

And you are right...this community is dominated by men. It is ok for you to "assert" yourself. You are woman...and I hear you roar .

As for "job" related things...

As for the 8 points you have made, I certainly think they are reasonable and fair.

As for members copying and pasting....

This is a hot thread and believe it or not many members are hanging onto every word you have to say. I'm sure you understand. So those who want to encourage you will agree to it.

That being said...

Here are some suggestions for you:

Though I recognize that you are not technically recommending Bosley and are only posting photos because you are encouraged to - I do recommend that you ask your doctor to select pictures that accurately represent the work. If anything it will help your clinic avoid any unnecessary public scrutiny. It is probably best that the doctor you work for selects some of his BEST work to present. Also consider including some varying single session sizes from smaller to larger.

I also encourage your doctor to provide the graft count (and preferably hair count breakdown), general patient history and goals.

I for one will keep an open mind as you present your clinic's work. the one thing I do hope is that your doctor will change his mind and reveal his name/location etc. After all public display of excellence deserves credit.

I think it's also fair to suggest that all members viewing the photos do not constructively critique Bosley as a whole but instead see this as one clinic out of many.

Grace, though you are "allowed" to leave this community at any time, we hope you'll stick around. I believe there really are a great group of people here.

Best wishes,

Bill

I'm in.

NN

This thread is getting interesting.

I welcome seeing some updated Bosley photos.

Grace, is it the Doctor's choice not to disclose where he works or what his name is, or (under contract to Bosley) are they not allowed to individually promote themselves so that we instead know them collectively as 'Bosley'?

Something is a little iffy here....

What happened to one of our respected posters, folica?

Why do I get an error message when trying to view his profile on *every* thread of this forum?!

And his weblog has disappeared from the face of this planet as well!

Bill, What's going on here?! If things are being *quietly* deleted I want nothing to do with this forum!

-Grace

Grace,

Didn't know if I should leave this one for Falc or not, but what the hell. Folica wanted to take a hiatus from this forum. He is starting to see some results from his HT and figures that he has learned a lot and contributed a lot. He is also a little tired of the debates and wanted to just try to help people and not debate just to argue a personal choice.

You might find this out, it is difficult to quit this site cold turkey. Hairbank, a respected member and myself for example, said our goodbyes and well guess what--here we are again. Folica thought it would be easier if there was no temptation.(kind of like the chain around the fridge for the overweight person) By having his membership closed, he couldn't log on easily and would resist the temptation to log on and express his point of view to so many of our wild discussions. Nothing shady going on at all. He is a good guy and helped a lot of people and I believe that he was going to send me his e-mail to keep in touch. He is taking a hiatus and possibly a long one, but he did his part here and I respect him very much for all of his input. Hope this explains things for you.

NN