month 1
John, 21, wakes up with a few loose hairs on his pillow. Worried, he sets up an account on hlh under the moniker of goldilocks.
He posts his pics and asks for advice.
The cheerleaders chime in and tell him its mpb and he must get on the big 3...propecia, minoxinol and armani.
A few wise heads shake their heads in disbelief and tell him to forget about a ht and to move on.

Month 2
goldilocks posts that he's just been to the A clinic and was quoted 4000 fu to replace the lost hairs. The cheerleaders chime in and tell him what a great thing he's doing.
A few wise heads scratch their heads in disbelief.

month 3
goldilocks informs everyone that the A clinic has just called and offered him a greatly reduced rate if he goes with an associate surgeon, a dr u.n. known. The cheerleaders chime in to say that they've heard great things about dr u.n. known. The clinics pr guy also chimes in to let everybody know that dr u.n known was trained by the master himself thus bestowing on him his world class skills
The wise heads point out how absurd that sounds.

month 4
goldilocks posts his post op pics. He decided in the end to go with the master himself. 6000 fu to replace the lost hairs and ever so slightly lower his hairline.
Goldilocks isn't sure if he asked for his hairline to be lowered.
The cheerleaders chime in and they're ecstatic for goldilocks.
The wise heads stay silent.

Month 8
Goldilocks posts his 4 month pics. Unfortunately he took them at night and forgot to turn the flash and room lights on.
The cheerleaders tell him he's going great.
The wise heads are more than a little dubious.

Month 11
7 month pics are posted. Unfortunately, once again, goldilocks forgot to turn the flash and room lights on.
The cheerleaders nonetheless are suitably 'wowed'
A couple of the wise heads question the yield and the necessity of goldilocks procedure but are immediately banned from posting for harrassment of goldilocks.

month 12
A new poster appears. He's 18,has no hair loss but is worried that it might just happen to him one day.
Goldilocks chimes in and recommends the big 3.
His fellow cheerleaders agree.
The wise heads give up....



**this is of course an entirely fictional tale**

Nice little story Josh,fictional but the truth is out there somewhere.

Its not cheap getting a ht from said place so where do all these youngsters get the money,rich parents,10 years of finance,

what a great tale. Im going to read this to myself before I go to bed tonight...

Wow, for sure a tale I will be bequeathing to my children, and my children's children..."the master himself"....

On said site, there seems to be a quiet (and not so quiet) genocide on all things that question and investigate Master Armani. The heat was really getting brought down hard and seering into the core of The Master's practice for a while, and it looks like something just had to be done about it.

Having said that, "Caveat Shilltor".

DONT FORGET FARREL BANNING ALMOST ALL POSTERS WHO QUESTION THE RESULTS FROM A. HMMMMM

Josh is there going to be a sequel.

I'm not sure chucky. The response was rather muted leading me to think that perhaps i'm not the literary genius i once thought i was.

However, with the help of a fine cabernet merlot, i may indeed pen a dark and disturbing tale on 'the master' himself.

EAZEY (?) got banned, yes? I liked that guy. He was a real pit bull in his pursuit of getting (basic) questions and inconsistencies answered. I always thought he was very sincere and never offensive.

And yes, when Farrel said it didn't make a difference whether he SHOWCASES fut results when he abandoned fut for the "revolutionary" fue, and defended it with that specious claim of it making no difference because of graft placement....lol, the way he so quickly rushed to the defense of Master Armani was the single fishiest Farrel-Armani connection that I've seen.

Ya, I remember that case -- ridiculous.....there was one other thread (maybe 2) where Armani and Co. just got dissected and laid out by Dr. Feller and some other posters....it was a long thread, and incredibly informative as Dr. Feller (among others) went back and forth with Shane (among others) and just slice n' diced. I searched for it but couldn't find it.

farell please dont include me and EAZY E with all the other guys you banned like we are all a team. You banned alot from around the globe not just me and him. Some for good reason most for your own agenda

In my opinion, this entire fiasco is ridiculous.

It appears some of you are talking to yourself but apparently, there is more to this than meets the eye.

I have found the thread over on Hair Loss Help which in my opinion is only fanning this discussion.

Because there is NO way for me to validate ANY claims made by either party, I have no choice but to bow out of this discussion. This is a Hair Loss Help issue that has filtered it's way here because some of you were banned.

Personally, I would prefer that this debate be continued over there since it has nothing to do with us.

I do however, feel compelled to address something that was stated on the Hair Loss Help thread.

To be perfectly honest, I don't like Farrel's initial post on that thread that insinuates that we are not a patient driven community.

Though our recommended physicians and clinical consultants are allowed to post here (relatively freely with a few stipulations I have placed upon them for fairness to patients), they MUST include their affliation with a clinic in their signature.

Farrel has his way of running his forum and Pat and I have ours. I do not believe either approach to necessarily be better than the other, they are just different.

Nonetheless, this forum IS a patient driven community dominated by patient members, NOT physicians and consultants. This is the way Pat and I intend to keep it.

Falc

Jimmy,

Voicing your opinion is perfectly acceptable. However, you have made some absolute statements that are libel if they are untrue.

One such statement includes:

quote:

You know the real reason you banned EAZYE because you read his pms and got pressure from Armanis people.

In my opinion, I recommend removing absolute statements that you can't prove or revising them to state that it is only your opinion and that you have no proof of such.

Falc

jimmyjam you should call yourself "crybaby"

Farrel already stated that you and EazyE had the same IP address.
End of story.
Sad becuse I used to find EazyE to be an entertaining poster.
Now just a bunch of whiney drivel.

Byehair,

For the record, I am highly convinced that EazyE, PLEASE GROW PLEASE, and jimmyjam are all different people who work together. They occasionally use the same computer at work which is why they occasionally have the same IP address.

I have knowledge of this from private conversations with 2 of them.

Falc

I I feel the same way Why should I even care? Just because I got a raw deal doesnt mean I need to try and help other people .I thought Farel was just some guy with a free forum .I didnt realize people get paid for this.
Yes Falc could you open that thread Ill delete everything. I know you want proof but its my word against his and that isnt enough so Im done here also . I used hlp for advice but feel mislead. No one but me and two other people know the whole story .This all started out with good intentions but has turned into foolishness.I have nothing to gain from all this .Farel if you read this you are way off base on what you believe is the truth . You got one thing right and that is an ip address .Its not your fault i made a bad choice its mine for not reading in between the lines. Good luck to all you guys seeking happiness. Do you homework and please dont let posters or a few pictures convince you of anything. Once you committ there is no turning back .Im more miserable now then before I ever had anything
done. Peace

HT55 and jimmyjam,

I see no reason for either of you to apologize to me. You are entitled to your opinions and are welcome to share them.

However, when people decide to speak on a public discussion forum, I'd appreciate it if they commit to what they say.

Therefore, I am not going to back to edit or remove posts.

What's said is said and let's leave it at that.

Falc

HT55 / JimmyJam,

I have been reading your update here as well as on the HLH Forums. From what I gather, Farrel banned you, you came to this site and made several detrimental statements, then Farrel calls you out with legal action if you don't remove them. I was expecting this to result in you posting clips of emails, private messages, photos of your bad work, etc. Instead, you just want to edit all comments to make it all 'disappear'. I'm with Falc - stand behind the comments if they are true.

Farrel Quote:

"EazyE gets banned after many months of causing problems, this happens on Dec 28, 2007.

On Jan 08 2008, about a week later, JimmyJam creates a new account here and asks about FUE megasessions and Armani and says he wants to have one. I specifically tell him to wait until the results come out and he agrees and says he has waited long enough so its ok.

Then after realizing he is posting from the same IP as EazyE, I ban him again since he is the same person and I suspect he is about to do the same thing all over again.

This JimmyJam then goes to the HTN and claims I banned him and sent him a private message saying "too much at stake" or something like that to imply I had to get rid of him. This was a lie because he had done nothing to justify anyone fearing his posts, nor did I ever send him any message about anything.

Now cut to today, Jimmy Jam is now claiming to be a victim of a bad FUE transplant and is saying I am partly responsible because I supposedly stopped people from criticizing Armani's FUEs, which is again a lie as was proven by the posts here in this thread.

However this is the MOST interesting thing. I removed EazyE less than a month ago. Even if JimmyJam had a transplant on the very same day that EazyE got removed, and even if Eazye was the only person who could supposedly advise him against having one, how could he ever know he had a bad transplant if it was only done less than a month prior, on the day Eazye got removed which was Dec 28th?

Today is Jan 25th, you could never know you had poor growth from a transplant if it was only done less than a month prior. So clearly this is yet another absolute lie.

See what I am saying here? There is something going on that is very suspect and I would like to see it being investigated because its clearly way more than a disgruntled patient.

Too many lies are being told that simply do not add up...... "

HT55,

I did use the word "remove" but did NOT intend for entire posts to be removed or edited. I advised the changing (editing) of absolute statements to opinion statements.

You and jimmyjam are entitled to share your concerns on this forum.

I am not going to go back and unlock an old thread just so statements made long ago can be revised. Heck, this thread has already been torn to threads with all of the complete removals.

From now on (and this goes for everyone), I'd appreciate if members commit to their posts or don't post at all.

Falc

M&M,

I agree that posters should stick to their original statements.

You also have every right to question these posters based on some of the inconsistencies found.

To clear up one piece however, I have reason to believe that EazyE, JimmyJam, and PLEASE GROW PLEASE are all very different people based on my private discussions with two of them (by phone and by private message). They all work together and occasionally share the same computer to post (hence the same IP address).

I encourage you to consider this into the equation when making an evaluation. In my opinion, EazyE and jimmyjam should be considered two different people.

It will be up to jimmyjam if he wants to explain his position further.

Falc

Interesting thread. I personally have only browsed over at HLH because I heard of it mentioned so much. I know that they are pro Armani but the reality is that where are all of the Fue success stories???