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Originally posted by HT55:
Here is one comparison. 3200 strip vs 3000 FUE by the same DR. The strip patient had WAY MORE hair loss to start with and I would guess he would have been quoted 5K FUE.

http://www.hairlosshelp.com/websites/galleryview.cfm?id...endario|gallery1.cfm




http://www.hairlosshelp.com/websites/galleryview.cfm?id=paperbag|gallery1.cfm

I know the FUE case is only at 6 months, but you can so obviously see the huge difference between the density of strip vs. the density of FUE. I would be incredibly pissed if I had to pay more for a procedure that didn't work nearly as well. For Armani to stop doing strip procedures and go FUE only is clearly a business decision. If he really had the patient's best interest in mind he would offer both and let them decide. I wonder if he tells patients that the density and overall quality of FUE is equal to strip? That's the only way I think a patient would rather do FUE and pay more, if they believed the results would be the same but no scar. Or they're total pussies and don't want to do strip for that reason.

Damn, I've never really seen a direct comparison between strip and FUE from the same doc like that. For Armani do go totally FUE stinks of greed, and if he's selling his patients on guaranteeing equal effect in comparison to strip then he is unethical in my opinion. But, I don't know the guy and I don't know what he tells his patients. It definitely doesn't look good though. If he offered both procedures and showed the patient both results and let them decide, that would be totally kosher, but to only offer the one that costs more and is inferior in results is shady. Plus, he's got the biggest name inn the UK.

It is elective cosmetic surgery, but that guy's a dick in my opinion. Even as a business man, he's still unethical if he's lying to patients and selling them on a more expensive procedure. He may be insanely wealthy, but he's a shitty human being if that's the case.

that's a TON of grafts for such a small area in the second link.
his hair looks somewhat thinning ALL over, yet it is difficult to say due to the length in the pre-op pic.
still can't get over what a great result that guy in the third link (on your last post) got. In his pre op pics it looks to me like he really doesn't have that much native hair.
insane result if you ask me.

More grafts, higher prices, and less coverage. If he's not telling the patient they can get better coverage for less money and more grafts with strip, then he's a dirt-bag. That is IF though.

I've never heard of him having graft counts on the website.
While I would never encourage anyone to go to Armani (save a 40+ year old with minimal hair loss) I have to say Im impressed with his work on patients who are around NW5's. Obviously everyone is impressed with his results from dense packing the front cm with 5K grafts on an 18 year old, but he does get amazing density for the amount of grafts he's moving on patients who have significant balding.
I wonder how he gets such density on these guys?
Maybe it's the photos/lighting? No? Seems quite dense.
I think his hair lines look somewhat unnatural though, too straight.

Yeah, but that density is only from strip as far as I've seen from him, and he doesn't even do it anymore. I'm thoroughly unimpressed with any pics I've seen of FUE patients 6 months and on.

density is only from strip: yeah, but STILL the density seems disproportionate to the amount of grafts he's moving. no? seems to me he got EXCEPTIONAL density for 3200 or whatever grafts on a guy with minimal native hair. not even enough native hair to style...
the IF: there is no way he's telling them they can get better coverage with strip when he stopped offering it.

I've been cycling through the photos in that guys' album, NG2GB, and while I think the results are unquestionably good (though I personally don't love the hairline...but that is a matter of sheer opinion), I'm pretty sure I've noticed some "irregularities" that I beleive make it seem like he has much less native hair pre-op, and more hair post-op....like you have said, 3200 grafts is 3200 grafts, and we know where they went. All of that combined, I feel pretty confident -- to speculate -- that while his hairline, particular the midsection, is very dense, the surrounding areas are very much operating under an illusion of density.

I really wish I could see more pictures from different vantage points and styled/unstyled to confirm.

yeah, I just look at the pre-op pic and there really isn't much native hair there.
Also, isn't it standard Alvi procedure to leave a slight "gap" between the native hair and transplanted hair?
I wish there were more photos too because it looks pretty dense.

I personally didn't like the hairline design. Was it performed by Alvi himself or an associate? It was very straight and just didn't look right.

Nelly,

Do you have any pics of your transplant with Shapiro ? I'm going to have some hairline work done with him late this year, probably about 1200 Fu's