Well friends, the time has come for my 3rd procedure. I will most likely be going with dr. mohmand although it is not set in stone as of yet.

The priority is to increase the density of my hairline, and i am seriously considering going to the crown this time. So far i've had 2 procedures of 1600 and 2750 grafts, about evenly spread out in the first 2/3 of the scalp, with the crown untouched.

I've been on propecia and minioxidil for the last 2 years and 3 months and there has only been improvement, although the last year it appears to have been stabilized.

Unfortunately my scar is rather wide from my last surgery, so im guessing the doc might be able to get 2k grafts or so, which IS enough for the hairline (i would say 1300-1500 is enough) and then the remainder could be put into the crown. The thing is, im guessing i would need around 1k to the crown or so for a good result, so i might end up short 300-500 grafts. Ofcourse, this is all theorycrafting, but bear with me.

As i REALLY want this to be my final procedure for atleast another 5 years, and this is asuming my numbers are correct, im considering adding some FUE for the final missing grafts (on the next day)

What do you guys think of this sollution?

Also have a look at my current situation.

IMO you should not do the crown.

As you've probably read on this site the crown is like a black hole. It just gets bigger and bigger. It can reach as far down as the top of the ears which for you would be exposing a vast new area. Also there is no natural pattern of male hair loss which leaves an island of hair in the middle of the crown. So if you start on the crown you are committed to it. The crown can reach 100cm2 or more so to get even thin density you are still looking at 3000+ grafts. You've already had 4350 with a stretched scar so the more you take the higher the risk or worse stretching.

Hopefully the meds will hold the crown for you for a few years and when you're older more people your own age will be losing in the crown and it might not bother you so much. Also you won't be committed to a course of action which will compromise your donor area.

It really depends on how much donor you have.

IMO, those with high densities (8000+) can get away with the crown.

Hmmm. I think if I were to touch the crown, I would likely look to allocate a very nominal # of grafts to achieve modest coverage/density to then be able to achieve an easy look of total coverage by using nanogen. I think you should be able to achieve this aim while truly beefing up your hairline.

You've mentioned wanting this to be your last procedure for a while, and the number of grafts you thus need to reach to be able to truly satisfy yourself.

That said, especially since you're wiling to travel, and this being your 3rd op, I would go to a clinic best versed in being able to meet your needs so you don't end up going through a 3rd procedure only to feel the immediate need for a 4th.

Any major reason why you are leaning towards Mohmand? vs. going back to DeVroye?

use a combo of either proscar or dutasteride and rogaine. save ur donor. give it about a year and see what kind of result you get

thanks for the reply guys..

one at a time:

Imissthebarber: I'm not afraid of commitment - heck, this is my 3rd time - but i just want a few years break without thinking about it.

The stretching is mostly my own fault (working out too hard too soon) and i wont make the same mistake twice, so im not too worried about the scar..

Thana: I can conceal it pretty well at the moment, i just don't want to spraypaint my scalp daily if i can avoid it, so it's either good coverage or nothing.

devroye vs mohmand comes down to price really, mohmand is 3 times as cheap even with devroye's discount - also i will not be able to afford to put anything into the crown with him.

Anouar: Im afraid you didn't read my initial post - i've been on both proscar and minioxidil for over 2 years.

dr. mohmand is a great surgeon and I think u should be more on meds for crown, anyway your hair line is not that bad and to put in so many grafts there will only give you a teenager hairline and when u are in your 40's and 50's with a large balding area on your crown it just wont look natural. well, that's just my opinion and it is vital to plan for the future. Everyone will lose hair in their latter years so add less on the hairline and more to the crown, u can style your hairline when u look at the mirror but u can't look at your crown, so add more to your crown, well thats just an opinion. I think with 2000 grafts from dr. mohmand, u will get some 15- 20% disount, let me know when u are planning for the HT as I am planning to do so with him.

Hi Mike, I have been following your story for a long time now and you have certainly undergone an impressive transformation. I think the colour looks natural on you and really improves density, lucky Scandinavians I wish I could get away with it! However if I had your hair to skin contrast I would probably only undergo a small strip strip procedure to improve density at the hairline. I think using up part of your reserve 2k or so fue hair at this stage is a little premature. I'm pretty sure a top clinic could get at least another 2 500 grafts out using strip. Your crown is not really that bad, I would just keep on meds and give it some time to see how things pan out, but if it really bothered and you did touch the crown at this stage you probably wouldn't need too many grafts for a great result, though as Imissthebarber said you would then be commited to it and obviously it would be uncertain if it would hold up for another five years. Cheers

Hej Mike!

Sjovt at møde en anden dansker herinde..

Må jeg lige spørger hvor du fik lavet din danske HT? - Og kender du hårklinikken?


Mvh Christoffer

Thank you for all the wonderful responses.

Raj: Nah you are right, it's not too bad, but it's not really good either. Sort of mediocre. I do not have a teenage hairline though, i have a perfect NW2.5 hairline that's going to look natural even when i'm old. Speaking of which, i saw a 70 year old dude with a full head of hair(maybe NW 1.5) and it looked great!

Im planning on late-november i think.

Julius: Thanks for the kind response - i'm happy to know that people have been following my progress.

The thing about dyeing your hair too often is that it's not really healthy for your hair, but i need the color to hide the crown. See the dilemma? I'm not sure how much time you think i need, most surgeons recommend 1 year or so, i've been on both for more than two, with little to no progress the last year. But you are right, it's a commitment, but it's a commitment im willing to make(made it this far haven't i?), even if it's just 3 years then that's fine.

I'm just not sure if dr. mohmand can get 2500 out of me, devroye made 2750 but with a smaller scar. I suppose we will have to wait and see on the day.

No stress: Hej NoStress - det var medica klinik fra kolding - lad være med at spilde din tid der, eller i DK for den sags skyld. De aner ikke hvad de laver

to the rest of you: he hasked me where my danish ht was done and i replied.

Hej igen Mike.

Jeg synes virkelig du skal tage kontakt til hårklinikken!! Jeg har selv gået der i et halvt år med godt resultat! De giver dig ikke flere hår, men gør de tynde hårstrå tykke igen! Vha. af planteekstrakt designet til dig!

Der er både en klinik i københavn og en ny i århus. Jeg selv er en klient hos grundlæggeren, Lars Skjøth og han er en super fyr der går op i din situation og ikke hans pengepungs situation.

Hi all.. sorry for my danish reply to Mike...

tak for tippet, det kan være jeg kigger på det

Mike, I didn't see this mentioned before, but do you have an idea how many grafts you have left? Start up with Jotronic's scalp exercises pronto.

I agree that this should be your final procedure for a long while -- refine your hairline and beef up your crown and you should be good to go.

Have you looked into Dr. Path in Thailand? I know he is extremely competitively priced like Dr. Mohmand.

I do not, no... all i know is that my scalp feels pretty lax still

Oh and how i would love to add grafts recklessly into the crown, trust me ;-)

I have, actually corresponded with dr. path, but he is twice as expensive as mohmand.

I think mohmand is the cheapest in the world?

I think dr.Path charge 2.20 usd per graft while dr.mohmand is 0.70 Usd

something like that yes, so it's quiet a significant difference..

thana i dont mean any disrespect by this but on that hairline shot it looks a little sparse, is that just down to the style and the hairs falling back over the hairline or is that the actual grafts per CM2 you have? might just be the pic or maybe just me

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I think dr.Path charge 2.20 usd per graft while dr.mohmand is 0.70 Usd

wow, either doc is extremely low price

Balb, not me m8 -- me and MiketheDane do have similar looking doo's, though. (i copied his bleached blonde look)

haha just noticed the name i didnt even look i just so the bleeched hair and assumed, mike are you happy with the hairline? is that the real denisty? or a decetive pic