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Neil. It is great to see your progress. That really gives me hope. Dr. Feller did my HT. I called him and he said that is definately temporary. Your scar looks amazing! It is so thin. Unfortunately, I beleive that mine has stretched a bit. That is why I really, really need that shock loss to grow back. That totally smooth feeling is really Freaky. I will keep you all posted. Thanks for the support. Keep up the growth.

Eric. Sounds like we are in the same boat. The best thing we can do is go for long periods without checking in the mirror. The circular areas at the end of the scar are very strange. I wonder what causes them. But, we have a lot of support on the site saying that we will be fine. If we didn't have the hope from those whose have been this route before, we would really drive ourselves nuts...

All Donor Area Concerned guys...Keep me posted
 
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Neil,
Did your doctor do undermining of the scalp in donor .
I read somewhere that undermining sometimes leads to permanent shockloss in the areas you have.
 
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Neil,
Did your doctor do undermining of the scalp in donor .
I read somewhere that undermining sometimes leads to permanent shockloss in the areas you have.

Nile,

It's not a term that Dr Epstein used when we discussed the procedure, but that's not to say he didn't use the technique.

All I can say for certain is that he used a combination of "deep stitching" and surface stitching to close the donor area, which I understand minimises stretching, particularly in the excision of previous scarring.

In any event, as you can hopefully see from the pictures I posted recently, thankfully the condition seems to have been temporary and the shockloss effect is decreasing as each week passes.

Regards,

Neil
 
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Neil,

Hey it's great to hear that everything is getting back on track! It's waiting for the shockloss area to grow back in that can be the hardest thing.

Dr. Epstein was a good choice on your part and you can bet he utilized the double-closure technique to close the area. My guess is that your linear scar will fade even further especially one year out post-op. Best wishes to you and happy growth!


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Guys,

Apologies for bringing this old chestnut back up to the top, but I was wondering what your experiences were, and how you felt, at the four-month (19 weeks to be exact) stage of your hairline growth?

As you may know, I've undergone repair of a previous transplanted hairline with Dr Epstein.

I've been in regular contact with Dr E concerning the donor shockloss, which has been healing well, but I relayed a concern to him this week that my new donor hair in front of my existing hairline was growing in "patches".

What I'm seeing are some quite dense areas, where the new hair has grown to as long as 2-3cm's, but in other areas, absolutely nothing as yet - and no sign of any follicles in the scalp.

Dr E's reply was that patchy growth is not uncommon, particularly in repair situations where there is previous scarring in the hairline. He also commented that 4 months is too early to make any assessment of the end result.

However, to help allay my concerns once again, have any of you experienced a similar growth pattern, and can you reassure me that the current "bald" patches in the new line do eventually come through?

Thoughts and comments much appreciated.

Regards,

Neil
 
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I have not experienced Patches per say, but growth has not been uniform...in some areas, growth is much more than other areas, I belive it is still too early to judge, we are at the 4 months staghe and NOW is the time that tings will start happening....although so far, improvement in my case have been greatly measured......If you do not mind..post pictures of a close up of the hairline


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I have not experienced Patches per say, but growth has not been uniform...in some areas, growth is much more than other areas, I belive it is still too early to judge, we are at the 4 months staghe and NOW is the time that tings will start happening....although so far, improvement in my case have been greatly measured......If you do not mind..post pictures of a close up of the hairline

Philly, hey buddy.

Tonight I've just had a number 2 buzz all over, except for the scar line where my barber stayed with a number 5 and blended it in.

Amazing! My wife and boys think it looks totally natural and totally cool! And at that length it's taken the patchiness out of play -in fact, I can now see more virgin hair coming through more clearly in the hairline.

I've forgotten to bring the digital camera home from the office this weekend and it's a national holiday weekend here in the UK (Monday off), but I'll take some pics and post them mid-week next week.

I tell you my friend, this cut has totally transformed my self-image. After just four months post-op I no longer have a hair transplant on display - after 20 years, the first day of the rest of my life! And hopefully more growth to come!

I gotta tell Dr E...

Later, buddy.
 
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Neil,

I have to echo Dr. E's sentiments that the irregular growth pattern is not uncommon. For example my own transplanted hair grew in irregular spurts. For a little while, I was leaning a little to the right beecause of the explosion of growth on that side while the left side seemed to take on a more "slow-and-steady" approach.

The reason behind this? I can't even begin to speculate, really. I just simply chalked it up to another strange way in which the body reacts to change. As long as all of my new little buddies grew in, I could live with the irregularity.

It sounds like the #2 shaved-all-over look is working for you, huh? It is funny that you made this post because, since it is now spring, I was considering a shorter hair cut. Right now, my hair is about 2" long on top and at around a #4 on the back and sides (It has been about 3 weeks since my last hair cut). I have been thinking of doing just what you did: a #2 all over. Many hair loss sufferers are pleasantly suprised to see just how good their treatment regimen and/or thier recent transplant is growing in when they opt for a shorter cut.

Keep us updated on the progress. Four months post-op is pretty much the real beginning of the "smiling days" so you have more to look forward to!

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Neil,

I have to echo Dr. E's sentiments that the irregular growth pattern is not uncommon. For example my own transplanted hair grew in irregular spurts. For a little while, I was leaning a little to the right beecause of the explosion of growth on that side while the left side seemed to take on a more "slow-and-steady" approach.

The reason behind this? I can't even begin to speculate, really. I just simply chalked it up to another strange way in which the body reacts to change. As long as all of my new little buddies grew in, I could live with the irregularity.

It sounds like the #2 shaved-all-over look is working for you, huh? It is funny that you made this post because, since it is now spring, I was considering a shorter hair cut. Right now, my hair is about 2" long on top and at around a #4 on the back and sides (It has been about 3 weeks since my last hair cut). I have been thinking of doing just what you did: a #2 all over. Many hair loss sufferers are pleasantly suprised to see just how good their treatment regimen and/or thier recent transplant is growing in when they opt for a shorter cut.

Keep us updated on the progress. Four months post-op is pretty much the real beginning of the "smiling days" so you have more to look forward to!

-Robert

Robert,

Thanks for the reply. For what it's worth I'd seriously recommend a short buzz. Of course, everybody's situation and style preferences are different, but I can say that at 19 weeks post-op my family swear to me my new crew cut looks completely natural - they assure me nobody would know I had transplanted hair.

Hopefully I'll post pictures next week and our friends on this site will be able to judge for themselves.

But at your stage post-op I'd say it's a great option, worth thinking about.

Regards,

Neil
 
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Robert,

By way of a final sign-off on this thread, just wanted to quickly flag up that I've posted some images of my 19.5 week post-op status in the Photo Album section.

Hopefully they might be of interest to viewers of this thread.

Regards,

Neil
 
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I don't feel you should be concerned with the shock in the donor area.
My big concern is why did the surgeon cut so high?
he went way above the ears on the back portion of your head.
That I believe was risky.
 
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hey i was just reading this whole thread and the circular bare areas below the scar describes exactly what I have. I am about 3 month post-op from my 3rd HT. There is a little hair growing back in, but there are still the large bare areas smooth as a baby's butt. When can I expect this to fill in and, when should I start to panick?
 
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hey i was just reading this whole thread and the circular bare areas below the scar describes exactly what I have. I am about 3 month post-op from my 3rd HT. There is a little hair growing back in, but there are still the large bare areas smooth as a baby's butt. When can I expect this to fill in and, when should I start to panick?

Hugh,

I saw a significant improvement after around 16 weeks. I'll be six months out in two weeks and I've been able to have a number 4 buzz in the donor area for at least the past 6 weeks. My barber says I may be able to go lower in time but the scarring remaining from earlier HT's is more an issue than what remains of the scar line from last December's surgery.

Other contributors on here have commented that it can take up to 12 months to grow out shockloss in the donor area, particularly after multiple HT's.

Hang in there.

Regards,

Neil
 
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really glad this post is here! I'm 5 weeks post op and have about a half inch of shock lose below my donor scar. It's not noticeable as my hair is two inches long, but I'd like to get it cut and feel like I can't. Hope it grows back in the next couple of months!
 
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Hey all,

I'm ressurecting this thread to ask a question. I experienced significant shockloss below my scar (about 1 cm). Most of this grew back at the 2 month period, but it is now 3 months and there is still 2-3 mm of smooth skin below the scar. No change in about a month. Should I worry? Have many others had this kind of experience and had the shock grow back?

Thanks
 
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