Thanks Bverotti.

Check your PM.

J

Hi B Spot,
I went to this link, the only thing that looked good was the donor area closure. The way they extract the FU's from the strip concerns me, it seems the percentage of damaged FU's would be very high by pounding the strip into this sort of sifter, nothing can beat the all hand cut method. Then there is the size of the recipient sites, very scary, you could almost fit a minigraft inside each hole, is it done by laser? For sure they'll save a lot of time with this technique at the expense of quality work.
I hope you'll tell us a little about your conversation with Bverotti.

B-Spot & HK 500,

I wasn't able to look at the link (got an error msg on my latop). From what understand about "quickgrafting", it's not about how it's dissected, or donor harvesting method, but simply making the incisions before the donor strip is harvested. You can then plant the grafts as soon as it's cut to shorten the time the grafts are out of the body. I don't understand it to be a "quick, quick, quick" process. The length of the total surgery would remain the same.

Janna,

Wouldn't the small incisions start to close up if they were not filled with a grafts right away? How much working time do you have after an incision is made before it closes?

Also, since grafts can survive in solution for several hours, it would seem to me that care in trimming FU's would far surpass the little bit of time saved with this quickgrafting method.

The body does tend to heal quickly, however, not so quickly that you can't plant grafts hours and hours later.

To clarify, the dissecting (trimming ) of the grafts will remain the same. There really is not that much of a differnce in the procedure. It is, from what I understand, just making the incisions prior to donor harvesting instead of after. We would cut the same grafts we always did. We'd plant the same as we always did. Trust me, I would not be talking to our doctors about "quickgrafting" if I thought the quality of the procedure is compromised in any shape or form. Of course our doctors would not consider it either.

I don't know if it's revolutionary as hairobservator believes, however, I do agree that it seems logical, therefore, better for the grafts to be put back sooner rather than later.

I always thought that if a laser was strong enough to cut through skin it was also hot enough to cauderize the surrounding blood vessels thereby compromising blood flow.

Nuff said.

Thanks Joe--- this thread is about 2 issues--- one which is the use of lasers and the other is some ultra fast graft trimming technique.

I think we can safely toss the lasers at this point-----

I think the other "quickgrafting" issue is fine, but I think the methods employed by top clinics is proving to be very successful at this point.

Thanks Again
J

B,

Gotcha. I didn't have a lot of time to read the whole thread, I just saw mention of lasers (someone say attached to shark heads?) for incisions. As far as the "quickgrafting" goes. Seen it before up close and personal. Three words in this case...

Trans...sec..tion BIG TIME.

All I asked for was sharks...with FREAKING laser beams...ATTACHED to their HEADS!

Sea Bass!!!!!!!.................. Are they ill-tempered?

I must be missing something about "quickgrafting". Where does the transection come in when you're cutting and planting like you did with the familiar method. Isn't it a matter of when the incisions are made?

You're right Janna. I was also confused about Jotronic's statement as it should be no different. As you stated it is referring to when the incisions are done so there is absolutely no change to percentage of transections unless I'm missing something major?

Thanks NervousNelly. I know it's hard to comprehend what Frenkie is trying to relay about the two topics so I thought I must of not understood him correctly.

Hello Janna,
..this coming week there are 15 hairtransplants at the hairclinics of LA and dr. Villnow promised me he is gonna do some with "quickgrafting method", in the comingtime he will look for the benefits! I had a very good meeting with him yesterday and he´s also gonna do my last hairfue 600-800 in the comingtime! He is a great hairdoc!

I just made my hairnews on haarweb.nl so later I will be back here on hairtransplantnetwork but if you like to come to europe, Ronald Shapiro MD and yourself are welkom in Düsseldorf too do a "quickgrafting-laserhairtransplant" together with Malte Villnow MD medical team! If you come you will meed Brigitte the leading tech of dr. Villnow!
I will call one of these day´s on the phone from holland, nice greatings to Shapiro Medical Group in Minneapolis! The doctor is not going to Las Vegas ore somewhere else, LA is doing fine we got allot of hairwork to be done and let´s keep it this way!

Greatings Hairobservator
"Quickgrafting Method"

Hairobservator,

I have been intrigued by your posts and although they are challenging for us to follow because of your broken english, I think I am understanding the points you are making.

I do want to ask one question that has been asked of you before: Are you employed by a clinic in Holland or do you represent a clinic or doctor? If you do, you can still post till your hearts content, but you MUST make reference to your affiliation at the bottom of your posts. This is the site rules. Thanks.

No Nelly I´m not working for dr. Villnow/LA but he is a very very good friend of me!
I have a really good job on the moment but maybe in the future there are things that I wanne do for my favorit hairdoc because I wanne help people to get a good hairtransplant!
I´m not a spammer for hairpatients I wanne help them with my information and hairwork!
My coming quickfue600+ is maybe the last option for me in hairtransplanting after my trichophytic closure strip last year, stripping is not possible anymore!
This week is "Quickgraftingweek" and I hope my idea is working out to be the best way to do a hairtransplant for the medical team and the hairpatient!
Sometimes I look like a crazy hairpatient who is making his own threathments but I like to think in that way(!) - I wanne help myself to get more hair and maybe I help other hairpatients too! After that Quickgrafting fue threathment maybe there is another new hairtransplant threathment the Sitestrip!
Sitestrip is like a S-lift ore facelift, you can get some extra hairgrafts in this way(+ skinlifting!) and hairobservator loves every hairgraft he can get!
And I´m working on another hairrestoration threathment too, I discussed it with my hairdoc already he said this one is impossible(!), who else shell I asked and who else can give me an answer and who else can do a study on those threathments who I developed in my fantasy!
He is for me the best in the field so I go to him that´s all I´m talking about!

Nice greatings Hairobservator
"Quickgrafting Method"

OK I can understand that you think I´m selling here, that´s what they first think on HaarWeb, Alopezie an hairlosshelp too, but can I do something about my expertise in hairtransplant!? Most of the webposters here and all over the world on hairforems wanne sell there hairdoc to get free hairgrafts in a coming hairtransplant, I think that´s how it works!
I´m only a hairpatient from 1990 when my hairloss started and who has worked for a hairclinic(LA 1996-2000) after that I was a haartherapeut in Holland/Konstanz(near Swiss border!)and I worked together with Holger Sonnenwald(www.lionhair.com), he is looking for a naturalway to stop hairloss! O know I´m advertising again ore not?

I don't really get it
Holland is nowhere near Switzerland and they do not even have a common border and the Konstanz I know is in southern Germany????

The Sound of Music?

You don't say.......

Yoyo overthere,
..on friday I know more about Quickgrafting!
Two weeks after my visit I will asked dr. Villnow about his experience with quickgraften!
Maybe standard now ore still a option?
I still wonder if there are some more hairdocs worlwide who are already quickgrafting?
OK talk to you later..

Greatings Hairobservator
"Quickgrafting Method"

Hairtransplantnetwork / Hair Restoration Info is OK!

Hairobservator is the developer of the
NEW HAIRRESTORATION in 2007!

QUICKGRAFTING Method & REHAIR Method

Quickgrafting with STRIP & FUE!
Rehair Method with REFUE or maybe REFLAP!
REFUE = Hairlossfollikels change for Hairtransplantfollikels with FUE!
TOPhairfollikels for SAFETYZONEhairfollikels!
Maybe regeneration for tophairlossfollikels in the safetyzone(back & sideways of head!)?
"The REHAIRZONE"!
Put TOPhairlossfollikels into FUEholes!?

It´s a long story how I came to this idea but it´s got something to do with a new look on hairloss(the new cause!)
found by the german hairexpert Holger Sonnenwald with his practice for Hair Regeneration, if you can read german look on www.neuehaarkunde.de & www.lionhair.de

In the coming days I report more related to my new techniques of hairtransplanting!
From this day I only report about my NEW HAIRRESTORATION on this american website!

Hairobservator NO more on Hairlosshelp!
Hairobservator NO more on Hairlosstalk!
Hairobservator NO more on HairSite!
Ore any other American diskussion website about hairloss & hairtransplants!

Hairobservator ONLY here on Hairtransplantnetwork!

Hairobservator is of course also on HaarWeb the dutch homepage
with diskussions about hairproblems - hairtransplants - hairnews and more!

Greatings Hairobservator
Expert for hairtransplantation & hairregeneration
Only on HaarWeb & Hairtransplantnetwork!
www.haarweb.nl
www.hairtransplantnetwork.com

FRIDAY 16 MARCH 2007 DüSSELDORF
Coming friday I have a QUICKFUE600+ by Villnow MD!
A QUICKFUE ore maybe some REFUE?
A report will come on Hairtransplantnetwork!