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Hi Everyone,

This forum is great and I'm glad it is around for me to post and do research from.

I consider myself pretty lucky as I am 38 years old and only recently have I noticed my hair loss, which began when I was about 21 and I noticed a lot of hairs on my pillow. I guess, I just had a great thick head of hair that really covered things until recently. And I believe it is more pronounced as I have black hair over asian skin.

My hair loss is generally all around but no real pronounced patches of baldness in any one place. Although, I do noticed a bit more in the vertex area. Just generally thinning hair but not a receding hairline.

So, to combat this hair loss, I have started today with generic minoxidil 5%. It was 20 bucks at Costco, compared to Rogain, which was 50! I already have a flaky scalp and heavy dandruff (which can be seen 10x in black hair), so I am going to plunk down the extra money and start using Nizoral to combat the flakes and itchiness that Minoxidil is reported to bring. I am also a believer in Nioxin, which my cousin, who is hair stylist, can get me cheap.

What I am not sure about, is how I can combat the areas where monoxidil cannot help me. For the front part of my scalp, what do you recommend?

Thanks everyone!
 
Posts: 1 | Registered: May 14, 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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I have been on Propecia for over 8 years now and I must say I have had great success with it. Before I started taking Propecia, I was 28 years old and noticed a small bald spot on my crown. I also noticed I was loosing several hairs in the shower. Even when I would wake up in the morning, I would see too many hairs on my pillow. Flash forward 8 years later and the small bald spot on my crown is now full of hair. I never missed a dose in all of these past eight years and I have never experienced any side effects from the drug. Now at age 37, I notice my frontal hair line is beginning to receed. We all know that Procecia is no benefit to the hairline. For now I'm using Toppik to achieve a fuller hairline. I figure down the road if my hairline receeds more, I will look into hair transplantation.
 
Posts: 17 | Location: Los Angeles | Registered: October 09, 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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-- Propecia daily and Nizoral 1% shampoo about 3x/week. I just started everything about 6 weeks ago so it's too early to know much.


I'm only taking .25mg per day of the fin.
(Who needs Proscar? Even true Propecia ends up being pretty cheap when each pill lasts for 4 days. And there's no way to hack Proscar pills down small enough for .25mg anyway.) Even the .25mg/day has been enough to give me sexual sides. Definitely made me a believer that fin's dosing curve is kinda flat. I'm not sure whether I'll stay on fin or not. It's powerful stuff. Mild testicular ache when I started and I would have quit within days if it had not faded away. I still don't trust this stuff at all.



I don't know how the rest of you guys are, but I can really feel the inflammation on my scalp when the DHT is pumping. Seriously. I first started using Nizoral because I could feel the difference. There have been times of high stress/hormones when I've actually taken an unecessary shower in the middle of the day for no other reason than to use Nizoral to cool down my inflamed scalp.

I don't even have to remember to take my daily finasteride dose in the morning or not, because I can literally feel the difference on my head any time I forget. Half an hour after I swallow the pill fragment I know I did it. I wasn't expecting anything so dramatic & immediate before I started Fin.


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Hey Robert,

You have got quite a range of treatments their, which is the right idea to battle it from several angles. Would just like to ask if you have noticed any side effects from using all these treatments together? I see that you have been using them for quite a while and you seem pretty knowledgeable about the products you use.

Would like to know so I can inform and help other people.


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Posts: 39 | Registered: May 23, 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Jason76-

Thought I'd let you know Robert hasn't been active on this site for awhile so he likely won't respond to you. You may want to try clicking on his poster name and personal info to see if he shows his email and try to reach him that way.


Hairbank

1st HT 1-18-05 - 1200 FUT's
2nd HT 2-15-06 - 3886 FUT's Dr. Wong
3rd HT 4-24-08 - 2415 FUT's Dr. Wong

GRAND TOTAL: 7501 GRAFTS

current regimen: 1.25mg finasteride every other day

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Balding Asian:

You might want to try a custom compounded form of minoxidil without propylene glycol. Propylene Glycol is the delivery system for the medication but it is also a skin irritant. It can be replaced with Natural Glycerin. Ask your local compounding Pharmacist if they can make some for you. The only downside is that the Glycerin is oily on the skin.
As far as the hairline, that is a tough one. I am sure if there is something that works one of the guys here will be able to help you.


1st HT 1-5-05 - 1894 FUT's Dr. Glenn Charles

2nd HT 12-18-06 - 1542 FUT's Dr. Glenn Charles

Total: 3436 FUT's

Current Protocol: Propecia Daily, Laser Therapy EOD 20 mins.


I am employed by Dr. Glenn M. Charles. I AM NOT A DOCTOR BUT I DID STAY AT A HOLIDAY INN LAST NIGHT!
 
Posts: 65 | Location: Boca Raton, Fl | Registered: February 12, 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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WOW! This will be an unpopular post. This thread reads like a junkie's paradise. First I hate to be economical but how much does all this stuff cost? Secondly I'm just wondering what the stress factor is. I understand no one wants to lose their hair, but is it all just prolonging the inevitable? And how many are still in the "cover up" mode. That is so crazy to me. Every mirror is like some secret nightmare.

Maybe there's a few wonderful success stories that you hear with full heads of hair. And maybe some hold on. I find that a planned regimen of transplant can blend and cover and eventually be done with. Often the drugs just are wait and see products.

While it's great that a bald guy goes t5o Hasson and can virtually turn back the clock in 1 or 2 sessions and that being a year and a half. I think many guys around 30 know where it's going. Consult with the best doctors. They see the pattern and can plan a transplant regimen that will help you never have to look really bald. And after 3 or 4 over 5 years you're probably close to being finished.

The drug thing to me is so unproven as to long term affects, results etc. Plus the cost on some of these shampoos and creams is just plain nuts.

It is very smart for a very young guy with nice hair to educate himself on proper nutrition. Some people think I lost the bushy bushy hair I had due to my not eating red meat. Could be. Point is....take care of what you got, but don't use something that the results still give you the "cover up" blues.
 
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Hey Hairbank,

Thanks, I would have been waiting all year for a reply. I have sent him a message about the side effects, hopefully I will get one back, not much hope though seeing as its nearlt 2 years since his last post.

This site is really great and everybody knows what they are talking about, theres a lot of other sites out there, but this has to be the best.


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Posts: 39 | Registered: May 23, 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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I think this is where I am. I stopped Propecia about 6 months ago (after 15 months on) because it didn't seem to do anything...except for erectile dysfunction at the ripe old age of 21. I'm better in that "department" now, thanks for asking... lol

That's me, except I have diffuse thinning.

The only remedy I will seek out from now on will be surgery. Pills, concealers, etc, they all take too much time and money to maintain and they could cost you, physically as well.


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As long as the rivers flow
As long as the sun shall shine
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Regain my feet and my pounding heart

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Posts: 446 | Location: State College, PA | Registered: January 24, 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Hey dhuge67,

Have you tried combining provillus with propecia? They both affect different stages of DHT and can be used together with no side effects or anything. Just a suggestion.


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Posts: 39 | Registered: May 23, 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Hey dhuge67,

Have you tried combining provillus with propecia? They both affect different stages of DHT and can be used together with no side effects or anything. Just a suggestion.
Hey Jason76,

I don't want to use more drugs for hair loss. It's not worth the time or money. I'd rather have another transplant than pay for a "maybe" treatment.


1,614 with Dr. Pistone on 2/3/06 in Marlton, NJ.

As long as the moon shall rise
As long as the rivers flow
As long as the sun shall shine
And the grass will grow
Let me listen, I will learn to speak
The old language
Yes, I yearn to bathe in blue skies
And fall apart from the world of machines
Regain my feet and my pounding heart

My Hair Loss Weblog
 
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Hi guys, I would just like to ask for your opinions. Is it alright to take multivitamins on the same day as Propecia? I take Propecia in the morning. After lunch time and before going to bed, I take multivitamins. Do you think this is OK? Thanks!
 
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Ask a Doc for a medical opinion. IMO (I'm not a Doctor nor do I play one on TV Cool) no.........one has nothing to do with the other and I've never heard of a problem taking Finasteride with anything else.


Hairbank

1st HT 1-18-05 - 1200 FUT's
2nd HT 2-15-06 - 3886 FUT's Dr. Wong
3rd HT 4-24-08 - 2415 FUT's Dr. Wong

GRAND TOTAL: 7501 GRAFTS

current regimen: 1.25mg finasteride every other day

My Hair Loss Weblog

Disclaimer: I'm not a Doctor (and have never played one on TV Wink ) and have no medical training. Any information I share here is in an effort to help those who don't like hair loss.
 
Posts: 2184 | Location: Illinois | Registered: January 06, 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Thanks for the reply hairbank! My doctor said the same thing. However, I will cut back on the multivitamins and take only 1 tablet a day. Likewise, I will also take Propecia every other day once I am done with my 3-month daily regimen.
 
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pao pao,

Well it looks like you already got your answer, but I was going to say the same thing...yes, it's ok to take finasteride and multi-vitamins on the same day.

Cheers,

Falc


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Thanks too for the reply falceros. I've seen your HT pics, as well as hairbank's. You guys now have great hair than your pics before.

Later on, hopefully, I can post some pics in my blog myself that can document the progress of my HTs. I consider both you guys good sources of info, 'coz I've read your past posts and all of 'em makes sense whether it be question or answer Smile keep up the great work!
 
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My Current Regimen:
.5 mg Avodart - daily
5% minox 2x/day
Nizoral 2% - 3x/week
T-Sal - 3x/week
Nioxin Actives other days
MSM - 3,000 mg per day
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Hey Robert,

You have got quite a range of treatments their, which is the right idea to battle it from several angles. Would just like to ask if you have noticed any side effects from using all these treatments together? I see that you have been using them for quite a while and you seem pretty knowledgeable about the products you use.

Would like to know so I can inform and help other people.


Yup. I did eventually experience a side effect with Avodart. A very slight case of gyno in one nipple. However, with one supplement I was able to be rid of it.


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rogaine 2 months and baby hair showing..ever on front where ive been bald for years!


2200 DHI Ireland june 2007
Rogaine 5% may 2007
Lasercomb jan 2008
Nizoral aug 2007
 
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Oh wow, good informations here. thanks all.


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