Coming from you Pat, calling me hypocrite means so much.

My ego has nothing to do with it, just as you cannot deal in a factual, non-agenda driven debate.

Like I said, I'm just so glad a saint like yourself is watching over us.

Jason

Jason,

It's clear that I now have to quote you first before replying since you appear as of late to be quick to edit your posts. I guess I would too if my argument was weak, foolish, and hypocritical.

I guess it's also easier to ignore my comments about backbiting since you clearly have no excuse. A simple apology and admittance of poor judgement and unprofessionalism would have been sufficient, but clearly too big of a step for you.

Bill (Falc)

oh boy, Bspot, i am going to go with my gut here are say that i do belive you do things with good intentions at all times.. as i said earlier ive known you to be nothing but a help to me and the hair loss community..... but you know what.... editing all your posts was, IMO, bull s*** as you have erased anything you represented in this debate..... that is a joke. there was no reason for you to back down from valid points and frankly im a little bothered with the fact that you fled. why? there was nothing wrong with your previous posts, but now they are gone. IMO you should stand by your words next time. why would you not?

B spot and Falc, you guys are hijacking this thread, which should be about the credibility of hairloss web sites in general, and in particular, about Hair Loss Help.

BTW Falc, B spot already edited his posts, stop beating a dead horse.

latinlotus,

Your point is well taken, and I agree.

Sorry for contributing to taking this thread off topic.

Please feel free to continue expressing your genuine concerns. I do hope that Farrel provides us, and most importantly, his members with some kind of answer to these posed concerns.

Bill (Falc)

I'm not sure what happened here between Pat, Falceros, and Jason here. But after talking with several members privately, obviously I'm not the only one with concerns.

According to Jason, Farrel admits that a number of Armani posts are gone, but he is going to restore them. Did he say why those are the only ones missing? Are you still going to create a post on the hair loss help forum about this?

Farrel, are you reading this? Can you please address our concerns?

And where the hell is Homa?

It seems like some are starting to speak up over there about concerns about the welfare of hair loss help, though nothing about missing Armani posts yet.

http://www.hairlosshelp.com/forums/messageview.cfm?cati...=82233&enterthread=y

Falceros, is it ok to post this link? You can remove it if need be.

On hair loss help, Farrel wrote

"And thanks to everyone who still supports this site. Its very difficult seeing your name being dragged through the mud on a daily basis. The one thing that keeps me focused is that I know I have the truth on my side.

At the end of the day the truth will triumph over the lies...."

Farrel, stop being so evasive and tell your members what the truth is so your members stop assuming the worst. Why are so many controversial Armani threads missing and if you plan on restoring them like you said, why haven't you done it yet?

that guy Farrel is really something else
2 months ago i wanted to register on his site and i was not allowed since i didn't provide my "real" ISP email address. if that's not a fascism then i don't know what is.

Mr. GQ,

This rule Farrel has initiated is a bit kooky if you ask me. But you certainly are welcome to contribute and share your experiences and input on our forum.

I was banned from Hair Loss Help because my sincere answer to one of Farrel's irrelevant questions on the thread was unacceptable to him. Yet despite the fact that he banned me, when forum member "Homa" was making claims against him, I invited him to defend himself on our forum. Instead of accepting my invitation, he became irate because I wouldn't delete all Homa's posts immediately and post on his behalf.

I really just don't understand his logic sometimes.

Bill (Falc)

Jason? Farrel? Anyone?

It looks like whoever disagrees with Farrel gets banned. Good thing I didn't post this thread on hair loss help.

thanks Bill for the warm welcome!!!

if that guy Farrel should happen to be a supervisor in some kind of company, you could bet your last penny that every employee would be calling him an A**hole with the capital A. so for the love of god i hope he never becomes one in his pathetic life for the sake of humanity and just stay where you are and pretend to be a god of your unsecured/hacked hair loss forum.

there i got it off my chest

Last I heard, B-Spot was abducted and probed by aliens, thus the reason for his strange behavior.
The cult won't be the same without him.

Probed by aliens? Sweet Jeebus man. Let's hope the probes aren't anal.

Farrel's silence has fallen on many deaf ears. But the few of us who have spoken up know somethings amiss. Why hasn't Farrel answered these questions? If he really intends on restoring Armani threads, he could at least give us a timeline.

Jason, I thought you were going to post something on hair loss help about this?

desperately seeking hair---- Farrel has put up a thread for you over on hairlosshelp....

he states that you are free to post your question to him over there and he promises you will not get banned. as of now farrel believes you are lying and you do not actually have an account over on HLH... just lettin you know

Yeah right Farrel is a lying punk.
Dont do it Desperatley
Hes read your concerns on here.
Why does it matter if you ask again .
He owes it to his members anyway
His site is horrible now .
I was told that he disabled the search so you have no choice but to post .
IMO He skews the numbers of posters onlne also.
Its actually a Ghosttown over there now.

Kinda "funny" how just as a peaceful revolution of (anti-Armani) thought started to crop up on HLH Shane passes off the reigns to Pats....who, just as the results start to peep through -- his own, included -- he goes MIA.....all around the time of Homa's accusations and the mystery Armani thread deletions, etc....PGP, I don't know if GhostTown or ShillTown is the better descriptor!

Frankly I don't post much on either site anymore:

1. The world has bigger issues than grown men fighting over hair transplants and HT Doctors results.

2. It seems to me we are all intelligent enough to asked informed questions and see through BS.

3. I guess I have come to the conclusion that those who continue in this mindless banter must have emotional issues that will not be helped on any website.

4. We are all guests on this site or HLH and the moderators can do what they want - if we don't like it we can leave or not post (like I have done). To get all wound up and post endless arguements is foolish.

Nothing beats visiting HT patients in person, googling the doctors name for complaints and doing a lot of research before going under the knife.

Peace

"2. It seems to me we are all intelligent enough to asked informed questions and see through BS."

quote:

Nothing beats visiting HT patients in person, googling the doctors name for complaints and doing a lot of research before going under the knife

. Well said Nic Nitro agree 100%

quote:

To get all wound up and post endless arguements is foolish.

Well for you to come out of retirement it must have wound you up also.
Tell Farrel hi
Oh and I agree with what Franlikns agrees with

PGP - I am not sure if you meant this for me: "Tell Farrel Hi" ?

However if you did: I have no allegiance to any site owner and speak my mind politely with thought. The only goal I have ever had is to give back as once upon a time there was a group of HT men that guided me into taking my first step.

I have voiced similar thoughts on HLH as well and directly to Farrel via PM.

The focus needs to be on results, safety, procedural improvements, research & development and a community working together for its betterment.

I left jr high bickering 35 years ago and I don't want to go back to it.

I spoke up one final time with hopes that this nonsense will stop and the members on ALL sites get back on track with the real issues.