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Real Hair Club Member |
This post was on March 27 in the thread “two sides to every story” of hair transplant experience and surgeons review section of the forum
jesdog112781 New Real Hair Club Member Posted March 27, 2008 01:00 AM Hide Post "Well it's time I spoke out, I got my first and only hairtransplant with Dr. Deyarman and let me say i'm clearly unimpressed with the results a year and a half after the surgery. I was 25 at the time and had a pretty decent receeding hairline. I was a little sketchy before the procedure since Deyarman has a low attention span and appeared to be getting bored with my questions and concerns, and the guy always seemed tired. But he was actually recommended on this site at the time and had good reviews so I figured he was good to go, much better than a few of the other surgeons in the area who had terrible reviews. The day of surgery he marked where the surgery would take place, cut out the donor area and then let his female assistants extract and then one on each side begin placing the implants on each side of my temporal region. It was a bit alarming realizing he wasn't doing the implants but I didn't know what to say, partly because it the surgery had already begun, and partly because I was pretty doped up with anestesia. Then the new assistant at the office was begging the lady working on my left temple to let her get a chance to do some implants, I guess I would be the new assistant training dumbie. I figured I guess if my Doctor whom I trust thinks it's ok then why not. But today my left side where that little untrained assistant had worked has almost no growth and hairs are few and far in between. I'm still bald in the area only it appears worse because now I have sparse hairs and it gives a strange appearence. The other side seems to have filled in well. I also suffered severe shockloss on the left side, partly I think again to an untrained person working on my left side. So pardon my french but screw Dr. Deyarman. Also his morals and ethics are screwy if he takes peoples trust, money, and personal security and trashes it with poor preformance than he deserves to be taken off the list and good riddance. I put all my money I earned in the service serving in Iraq and Afghanistan into this surgery and for what? To lose more hair then I gained?? Just because Dr. Deyarman hates doing his job, he should wake up and realize people are paying him top dollar to do the job right, and that his poor preformance will cost him as it is now. I will post photos soon. Also let me know if anyone has any questions or concerns and would like to contact me directly even though i'll be checking the posts at this site. jessdog112781@hotmail.com" I have tried to notify this person thru the network and the posted email address ( jessdog112781@hotmail.com) and the email address in not valid. Be careful anyone can cut and paste pictures it doesn’t mean that they are my patients. I question the contents of this post for many reasons mainly because it’s just pure lies with zero truth to it. Anyone who knows me or who has consulted with me knows that is not my character. I give my all during each and every consult. Since no one is above making a mistake I have gone back to the time when this “so called patient of mine,” had his surgery, called and spoke with each and every one of my patients and there is not one dissatisfied patient during that time period. I challenge anyone to come into my office and have a legitimate consult with me and come up with the above conclusions. As you can see from the pictures that I have submitted to this site and my site www.deyarmanmedical.com my work is not substandard in the least. If anything I am committed to total satisfaction and excellence. Who ever posted this is either a disgruntled x employee, competitive doc, or just a sad excuse of a person to make up such sick and hurtful lies. Something interesting that I noticed was that this was posted at 1 a.m. and at 1:30 a.m. Pat promptly replied…. Sorry gentlemen but it appears that this is not a legitimate post. |
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Hard Core Real Hair Club Member |
Some posters will have an agenda and this is simply the nature of the internet; any doctor who chooses to embrace it and promote his/her work online is subject to this kind of thing. A good reputation will dispel a few fallacious allegations if that's the case.
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Follicular Salvation Club Member |
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Oh ok Quit crying and keep posting your work. Thats how youll end all you little troubles. Its as simple as that Bottomline you must have pissed that guy off in some way. |
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Real Hair Club Member |
Please Grow
You are missing the point. A post like this can cause big troubles and since it is a lie it should be removed. |
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Hard Core Real Hair Club Member |
i always think about some of these posts, and sometimes people are quick to take sides without the proper evidence.
Falc is getting very good at this, but i wondered about Pat's response as well. This is about balance, but we don't always get that here. |
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My Hair Loss Weblog Honorary Real Hair Club Member |
Personally, I don't pay much attention to these hit-and-run posters, and with all due respect doctor, I think you bringing it to everyone's attention yet again is doing your clinic more damage.
I think if a poster has truly had a bad experience, he'll stay on here more than one night looking for support, or ways to correct his situation. Like PGP said, let it go and post your stuff and you'll be better off. People aren't sitting around making notes on posters who come on once or twice with some claim, but consistant posting really will help or hurt a reputation. 300 'mini' grapfts by Latham's Hair Clinic - 1991 (Removed 50 plugs by Cooley 3/08.) 2750 FU 3/20/08 by Dr. Cooley Current regimen: 1.25 mg Proscar M-W-F Rogaine 5% Foam - once daily AndroGel - once daily Lipitor - 5 mg every other day Weightlifting - 2x per week Jogging - 3x per week |
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Follicular Salvation Club Member |
It should not be removed until YOU can prove its a lie. I got the point . I was giving you some advice.
I never even knew his post existed until today. Like I said YOU pissed someone off. Put your internet bandaids away and just post a bunch of pics,then nobody will care about a couple negative issues. Since trying to earn your way back on here you have did everything ass backwards. PICS PICS PICS PICS PICS PICS NO MORE WORDS NO MORE EXCUSES NO MORE SILLY PMS NO MORE BANDAIDES JUST PICS PICS PICS and if your work is solid with RECENT photos youll be fine |
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Veteran Real Hair Club Member |
I think if the poster wont varify himself when challenged then his post should be deleted. With all respect Doctor you should be putting up more of your pictures of your patients and not harping on how you are being dogged. There will always be troublemaking guys on the web. Put up good pictures of your work and you won't have to keep defending yourself and bringing up bad press about yourself all the time. just an opinion.
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Veteran Real Hair Club Member |
we dont care how much the docs pays pat.. all we want to see is consistent RESULTS.. and till now u dint bother to show us any of ur work here.. u are not winning anyones confidence here.. in face u r wasting time everyones.. please dont come back without pics./.
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Associate Publisher and Forum Co-Moderator Follicular Grand Wizard |
Dr. DeYarman,
To keep things in proper perspective for our forum members, you are are referencing a post on your thread regarding your lawsuit against this patient community entitled "Two Sides to Every Story". The original topic can be found on "Dr. DeYarman Lawsuit against the Hair Transplant Network" Why are you so quick in stating that this forum member is lying? Do you even know the patient's real name? If not, how exactly did you check this post against your patient files? Are you discerning that he is not one of your patients simply because his email address bounced? In my opinion, it would be more fair for you to say that his post is questionable, but since you have no real information on him, there is no way for you to discern it as a lie. We always try our best to maintain a delicate balance to be fair both to patients and physicians. Therefore, I took the liberty of doing some investigation. I have confirmed that this forum member's email address is bouncing, but I also see that he registered back in April 2006. So even though his first post surrounding this issue, this was clearly not his first time on our forum. Since I have no way of getting a hold of this forum member "jesdog112781" by email, I encourage him to come here and speak out, share his pictures, etc so we know whether or not this is a legitimate experience. If you are going to post here, you are going to be open to constructive criticism. Therefore, insulting our forum members through private messaging (as members have claimed on another thread) if they give you a less than glowing review is far from appropriate. Best wishes, Falc To learn about how I restored my hair, read my hair restoration story with pictures. See also my hair loss weblog. Learn how Physicians are Recommend on this Community ------------- As of August 4th 2007 and after approximately 4000 posts as a free patient advocate - I am the Co-Moderator and Associate Publisher of the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center and the Hair Loss Q & A Blog. Read the official announcement here. I am not a medical professional and my words should not be taken as medical advice. All opinions and views shared are my own. Learn how to subscribe to our community newsletters Proud Smile Club Member |
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My Hair Loss Weblog Follicular Salvation Club Member |
When the poster (who first registered as a forum member in 2006) complained about his alledged poor results with Dr. DeYarman, I took his allegation seriously and emailed him in an effort to help him.
While I did not get any bounced message at that time, I also did not hear back from him. I agree with Bruceman that in the interest of fairness if the legitimacy of this poster and his post can't be verified then his allegation on this forum should be removed. I will make another attempt to contact him and if I do not get a response I will remove his post. Note - In Dr. DeYarman's original post at the top of this topic he accused me of only presenting doctors who buy their way onto this site. I then rebutted this baseless accusation by pointing out that my removal of him and other sponsoring physicians contradicts his accusation. Dr. DeYarman then edited his post to remove his accusation once its poor logic was pointed out by me below and by other posters. If he wants to throw online tantrums he should be prepared to only make statements that he can stand behind. Dr. Deyarman, If you feel that physicians are only recommended on this community based on whether they pay or not, then why did I refuse to accept your financial sponsorship when I became aware of your quality control problems? Why would I spend thousands of dollars in legal fees rather than give in to your demands and remove your patients' negative forum posts and reinstate you in the Coalition as a dues paying member? The truth is I've turned down hundreds of doctors from this site over the past ten years and I've promptly removed those like you who failed to meet our standards over the test of time. I believe, based on input from your former medical staff, your patients, other physicians and my own first hand observation of your surgery that you no longer meet the recommendation criteria of set for this community. You told me that due to being removed from this community that your practice has dried up. In desperation you have sued me and this community to get reinstated and to have your patient complaints removed rather than pulling yourself together and getting your practice in order. I also know that you called some Coalition members to complain about how badly your business was impacted after you were removed. I really should thank you for reminding them of what a great service this community provides them and their patients. Perhaps I should provide you with a phone list so you can call them all? This community has enabled leading physicians to cultivate and educate hundreds of patients for a fraction of the cost they were doing it for prior to the existence of this community. This has enabled them to lower their advertising expenses and the rates they charge their patients, while cultivating enough patients to increase the size of their full time staff and the sessions they offer. Frankly, the support that doctors provide for this community is small change to them compared the benefits they and their patients derive. Perhaps that explains why you are obsessed with getting reinstated in the Coalition and are paying thousands of dollars in legal fees in ill fated attempt to bully me into reinstating you. You really need to stop haunting this community by berating the members of this community in private emails and filing lawsuits. If you have so many happy word of mouth patients, then get busy doing their hair transplants and stop beating your chest on this forum and wasting our time and resources. I've been very tolerant of you and even let you self promote on this forum even as you have been costing me thousands of dollars in legal bills. But if this harassment continues I will detail the many reasons why I removed you from this site both in court and on this forum. To date I have been very discreet. But I have ample and compelling evidence to support my decision to remove you. I look forward to the judge throwing you and your case out of the court room. P.S. If you don't think patients are qualified to critique their final results who is? |
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Veteran Real Hair Club Member |
Doctor, you appear to have some serious issues. I have read on other posts that you called other members RUDE in private when they commented negatively on your photos. Truthfully, I haven't been impressed with what I've seen either, are you going to send me a private message too?
Why exactly are you suing this forum? In all your posts I have not read YOUR reasoning behind it which stands to reason that Pat is telling the truth. And if you feel that this forum is all about the money, why were you involved with it? And why are you so upset that you are no longer a part of it? Doc, your logic makes NO sense! It is doctors like you that make me thankful that I found a patient forum like this one and others to get answers to all my questions. Therefore, as a prospective patient, I am PERSONALLY offended that you would sue this forum! Get a life! ~Baldie3000 |
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Mentor Real Hair Club Member |
It's become clear that this doctor is only interested in what he can get from this community, not what he can give back.
HT #1: Karamikian Unknown # of grafts Sept.2006 HT#2 Nov.23rd, 2007 Dr.Feller Almost 3200 grafts Proscar Rogaine Foam Arctic Fish Oil Via Viente whole food mineral elixer |
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Veteran Real Hair Club Member |
Dr. DeYarman,
I have visited your site and your gallery looks very mediocre. The reason is: When you present NW1-2 results I can understand showing only the hairline but in other photos of NW5-7 patients show their crown in before pics but you show ONLY their hairline (sometimes in a side view). Those pictures are misleading at best. I'm no HT pro but I cannot compare your results to other top notch docs like Feller, Alexander, H&W, Shapiro and others.Sorry. |
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Follicular Salvation Club Member |
Yeah hes a little out there but hey so am I .
The doctor could clean this all up in a matter of months yet he has no idea how to approach the situation. Im a dummy and I know how . |
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My Hair Loss Weblog Follicular Salvation Club Member |
I have made multiple attempts to contact jesdog112781 to help him and verify his claim that he got poor hair transplant results with Dr. DeYarman. However, to date I have not gotten any reply.
This poster first registered on this forum in 2006, yet did not post until recently to complain about his alleged surgery with Dr. DeYarman. In the interest of fairness, I think those reading this topic should know that this poster's claims could not be verified, despite multiple attempts to contact him. |
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