I am scheduled to go to Bosley on Friday for an intial consultation. After reading the feedback on Bosley I feel I should look into some other doctors. I live in Phoenix, AZ and see that Dr. Scott Alexander or Dr. Keene from Tuscon are the only AZ Dr.'s in the coalition. Does anyone have experience with these Dr.'s or recommend anyone else in AZ.

Guys,
I'm 30 and contemplating of getting a hair implant. But today, I ran a cross this guy's website (promotional link removed) claiming he regrew his hair back. Any thoughts whether or not I should try his product first before pursing an implant?

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Originally posted by skinnyStick:
Guys,
I'm 30 and contemplating of getting a hair implant. But today, I ran a cross this guy's website (promotional link removed)claiming he regrew his hair back. Any thoughts whether or not I should try his product first before pursing an implant?

LOL .. it is garbage ads like that which waste so many millions of dollars from vulnerable balding people.

That guy is an @$$-hole trying to make some quick money by trying to rip you off. The website is cheap, has no scientific backing (he supports it with his own personal account). His re-growth looks like nothing more than him adding some concealer like Topik and claiming he has had re-growth. His hair still looks terrible by the end, very sparse ... I hope he enjoys his product when he is bald and has a garage full of the garbage he is trying to sell.

Avoid the scam and get a HT if you want a real solution.

Stick to propecia/proscar, rogaine and Hair transplants or call it game over and shave your head.

Thanks for your comment Shaved...

Need advice from experience fellas:
I am 26, Norwood 3.5-4.
I am currently in process of online consultation with various renowned surgeons for HT, two of them have sent how many grafts i will need after looking at my pictures:
Dr. Rahal's office: 3750 grafts
Dr. R.Bernstein : 2400 grafts

I am awaiting responses from others, but can there be a huge difference in the number of grafts estimation when the doctors have seen the same set of photographs.
Also, for me the price they have quoted is exorbitant, I understand that its that way in US & Canada. Is there any financing available if I still want to take it up.

Awaiting to see your feedback.

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Originally posted by tuja:
Need advice from experience fellas:
I am 26, Norwood 3.5-4.
I am currently in process of online consultation with various renowned surgeons for HT, two of them have sent how many grafts i will need after looking at my pictures:
Dr. Rahal's office: 3750 grafts
Dr. R.Bernstein : 2400 grafts

I am awaiting responses from others, but can there be a huge difference in the number of grafts estimation when the doctors have seen the same set of photographs.
Also, for me the price they have quoted is exorbitant, I understand that its that way in US & Canada. Is there any financing available if I still want to take it up.

Awaiting to see your feedback.

Tuja,

Graft counts can vary widely depending upon your goals and the doctor's plans for you and what was discussed during your consultation.

You may want to start your own thread to get some more input, but since both doctors saw your photos, did either one outline where they might put in your new hairline (assuming that is what you need done)? Did either one discuss density (ie. grafts per cm2)? And did either Dr. discuss your future hairloss, what your donor area looks like as they plan for the future with your finite donor hair. These are just a few of the discussion items that are under consideration when a Doctor provides a graft estimate for you.

M&M

No,

I guess that detailed consultation cannot happen on mail.

Thanks M$M for the answers.

Hi,

I m new to this site. Hope someone can give me suggestion and feedback on surgeons.

I m from Sydney, Australia. Thinking of going for HT in Sydney Institute of Hair Restoration, performed by Dr Andrew Kim.
http://www.sihr.com.au/

Has someone had HT by him? Any comments? Thanks

Continuing with my previous posts about estimation of grafts sent by different doctors:

I am currently in process of online consultation with various renowned surgeons for HT, two of them have sent how many grafts i will need after looking at my pictures:
Dr. Rahal's office: 3750 grafts
Dr. R.Bernstein : 2400 grafts
Dr. Hassan&Wong : 3500 grafts
Dr. Pathomvanich : 2500+ grafts

Today I had a meeting with Dr. Bishan Mahadevia where Arnolder had his transplant done, I found him reasonable, not selling anything, no pressure, he just told me that whenever I intend to take HT with him just inform 15 days before.

But the main thing which worries me is:

His estimation of graft requirement: 1850+

Also, he said you dont need grafts at the top because hairfall should be stable and it looks like either more hair will fall from the crown or you will get it considerably dense by medicines itself.

Kindly comment although M&M has already said a detailed discussion is required but here the difference is 50% and I have already discussed in detail with Dr. Bishan.

And yes one important thing, he said in 1 sq.cm. area, you should have not more than 30-35 grafts or at the max 40 because your average scalp at back has not more than 80/ sqcm of grafts, and 50% of which is maximum you should take from behind.

Please comment on this if you have any knowledge about this.

Hi Tuja,

I think your post isn't getting many views here, so I would suggest you start your own thread with a clear title and then list the following estimates you have received from Doctors and then also post a few photos. You can definitely crop out your face to ensure that nobody recognizes you, but this will help us a lot.

As for your quotes, I'm pleased when I see the top two doctors that you have received estimates from come very close (Dr. Rahal at 3750 and Dr. Hasson/Wong at 3500). These two (okay, three really) are so good at what they do and can do very large sessions, so if they thought you needed more, they would quote more. If they thought you needed less, they'd quote less.

On the other hand, some of the others perhaps can only do 2500 in a single session and therefore, they are saying that is all you need... but then you'll require another procedure.

Now, onto the next topic from Dr. Mahadevia (never heard of him). Taking a conservative approach with the crown if you are new on the meds certainly makes sense. Is this something you've discussed with the others? Have you responded well to Propecia / Rogaine? Overall, this is good advice. But, when he says that 30-35 grafts per cm2 is the most you should ever get, I do disagree. Have you seen what that looks like? Typically, what Dr. H&W and Dr. Rahal will do is plant the hairline at a thicker density (say 50-60) and then taper back the density ensuring you have nice framing for the face, while not wasting any precious grafts (like some who receive 70-90 cm2 in the hairline).

M&M

quote:

Originally posted by hairhair9:
Hi,

I m new to this site. Hope someone can give me suggestion and feedback on surgeons.

I m from Sydney, Australia. Thinking of going for HT in Sydney Institute of Hair Restoration, performed by Dr Andrew Kim.
http://www.sihr.com.au/

Has someone had HT by him? Any comments? Thanks

HairHair9,

I haven't heard of this doctor, but I took a quick look at the photo album and here are my thoughts:

- Every patient seems to have a thin wispy comb-over in the after photos - not impressive

- There is no data on number of grafts, number of hairs, photos of scars to demonstrate solid closure technique, etc.

I would suggest you start a new thread as you will generally get more visibility this way. You should also complete an online consultation with some of the coalition doctors on this site. Whatever you do - do not let travel be a factor for you! Your HT will stay with you for a lifetime and costs a lot of hard-earned dollars, so take your time, do your research and ask lots of questions. Good luck!

M&M

Okie M&M will start with new thread.

Dr. mahadevia has reasoned it with my existing scalp density. He said, not more than 50% of the density should be taken in HT. I am not aware whether there is any such standard.

Thanks a lot for your advice.
I will start my own thread with pictures.

Regards,
Tushar

anyone have experience with gregory pistine of new jersey

One thing I find it tough to understand is how can a doctor give extrmely low hairline and even if it was there are old people who have low hairline but bald on crown so is it really worth being depressed about ? I really wish we
had pictures to see so others are carefull about low hairline issues.

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Originally posted by web22:
Sure 34:
He did the same thing to me and gave me a very low hairline and i am 49 years old. I never had this low hairline even when i was 16 years old. I don't think Elliot has any Ethics or ever had one. All i can tell is that he bases his work on how many times he can brings you in and milk you. A 49 year old should have a receding type of hairline. I any case, I wish i had seen this weblog and your experience with this Unethical Doctor.
By the way, I 've been on medication due to severe depression because of this.

yauboo

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Originally posted by sure 34:
Dr. Elliot performed 3 surgeries on me from the age of 18-23 and the results are not good. I was first turned away by Bosley, they said I was too young, I then went to Dr. Elliot and he quickly promised great things and went on to take 3000 grafts, thousands of dollars, and gave me a very low hairline that I know I won't have enough donor hair to maintain as my hair loss continues. I'd stay far, far away from Dr. Elliot. Very poor experience and did not even come close to being up front with be about the possible ramifications.

If you have little hairloss just go with propecia and Minoxidil and a good shampoo.
(I personally like thymuskin ). But apart from propecia and minoxidil no other treatment is reliable. Its upto you to try but there can be risks and waste of money. I tried something for a while and my hair started to turn gray.

quote:

Originally posted by skinnyStick:
Guys,
I'm 30 and contemplating of getting a hair implant. But today, I ran a cross this guy's website (promotional link removed) claiming he regrew his hair back. Any thoughts whether or not I should try his product first before pursing an implant?

chan2009 and alijame,

It would be great if you two could start your own thread with your questions/comments. This will maximize the number of replies you get.

Best wishes,

Bill (Falc)

I am awaiting responses from others, but can there be a huge difference in the number of grafts estimation when the doctors have seen the same set of photographs.
Also, for me the price they have quoted is exorbitant, I understand that its that way in US & Canada. Is there any financing available if I still want to take it up.

Awaiting to see your feedback.[/QUOTE]

Yes, there can be a difference. Docs may see the same condition but may have different techniques or different plans on how they restore. Im 38yrs previously a 5A balding guy from Maryland and did the same thing. i sent photos via email to get some estimates on how many grafts and prices. But thats not the only thing you should do. You need to see them in person. Research your doctor before you see him. see if he or she has any publishing's or credentials (good or bad). if the doctor has any experience, you should be able to find info on the web. You need a doc who does the latest follicular grafting and does most of the work themselves like the NEW trichophytic closure technique of the donor site (ask about staff experience and techs). Some doctors will do only little sessions at a time and others with experience will have the skill to do a larger session at once.

There are several things you need to set your mind on:

* try Propecia because i wish i started on it at 26yrs it would of saved me hair and money in the long run. its proven to stop hair loss on many people and even regrow hair on the crown area. a good HT doc will evaluate this with you and only place grafts in this area if you commit to using Propecia for a LONG TIME... i know it sucks but its an investment in yourself. Although it does get cheaper with a generic brand but you need to stay on the name brand for one year first to make sure you see any change. See a HT doc with questions and prescription.

* research and research your doctors - this forum really helped me - go through the web. HT doctors can have such different skill level. You need a doctor who is not afraid to publish their techniques and process. Look at previous clients (before and after photos). HT is a serious matter surgically and aesthetically.

* set realistic goals: i got 2300 grafts but still maintained a slight receding hairline cause of my hair style and age. a low hair line is not for everyone. a skilled doc should know whats right for you and should see your future progression.

* you need to feel comfortable. i avoided the big HT places cause i was bothered by them sometimes 10 times a day by phone and felt like a number not a person. i needed a smaller and more personal place that payed attention to the little details. Remember, the selection of a HT doctor's staff says a lot about the practice they run. (everything counts)

* have a positive attitude going for the surgery - it can be a long procedure and some discomfort but i cant tell you the level of excitement i have to have my own real hair again. my forelock is restored once again. NO MORE FLIP TOP.

Make sure you get lots of details and even in writing how the procedure will take place and what they give you and how many people are involved and ask if your the only procedure for that day. You want all the attention from the doc and staff for a high price you pay.

Also make sure you take off for at least 5 days - some need 7 days after procedure and plan to do NOTHING. it is so so important to the healing process and avoiding swelling of the forehead. follow directions from doc. My doc got me started a day earlier on a "MethytlPRENDNISolone"4mg schedule tablet packet a full day earlier. i think with that and a combination of ice packs and motrin is what kept me from the swelling. I had no swelling at all the entire time but slept in a reclining chair with my head looking at the ceiling the entire time for 4 nights.(it sucks but worth it). i bought several gel packs and different sizes. one not frozen to support your neck cause its way more comfortable then a rolled up towel. alternate back and forth with a frozen one on your forehead and a little on the neck. thats what helped me. Your donor site may hurt like hell like mine the second and third night but the pain is controlled with Motrin every 4-6 hours.(ask your doctor first cause im not).

My grafts did not hurt at all the entire time. Just be very careful with them. Use a saline spray often to help speed up the healing and dont touch them. Your doctor should have instructions on how to care for them.

If you need a recomendation i went to Dr James Vogel in Baltimore, MD. I had the best experience and results with him and would do it again with him. This doctor has the skill and knowledge and staff and price that made it all come together for me and make it a reality.

38yr 2300 grafts by Dr Vogel on May 28 2009

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