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Hard Core Real Hair Club Member |
From reading about FUE it seems it is best utilized as a fill in "touch up" procedure. I would'nt risk a megasession with FUE. For someone like myself having 3 strip procedures I would opt for a smaller FUE procedure rather that a 4th strip.
1045 FUT "hairline" with Dr Feller on Nov 05 825 "hairline" with Dr Loria "saw so so results" on Jan 01 MHR 325 "hairline" micro/mini 's 1999 "big mistake" |
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"Charlie Don't Surf" Follicular Salvation Club Member |
Falc,
In a perfect world I totally agree with you that you hate to see the little guy lose and you make a good arguement for it. Possibly this is something that Dr. Feller could evaluate as I'm sure he knows the costs of a day without a surgery. There is the chance that when he evaluates the numbers he might be able to restructure his policy as it might not be as big of a financial hit as he thinks. As you alluded to, there is the other side of things as well, such as the future referrals from the happy client that got his money back. If indeed it is true that he has only had a couple of instances of having to alter the surgery it might not be a big deal. I think that we are all in agreement that Dr. Feller does great work but I will agree with Falc that some of his statements referring to money are a little strong. I'm in the healthcare business and I think it is very important to be a little more tactful when talking to potential patients about your desires for profits. I thought my previous post went before his (not sure what happened), and I thought I gave a pretty good arguement as to why these doctors needed to be concerned about the financial side of things. It obviously benefits them and in the long run will benefit us. I tried to spell things out diplomatically and was in full support of Dr. Feller and other physicians, but was a little saddened to see his kind of blunt, brazen response. Again, I reiterate that it is us, the consumer who is putting the pressure on the doctors to provide alternate forms of HT and do it with highly trained techs, in a sterile environment, with advanced techniques and at a competitive price. This costs a lot of money for the physicians and they have no choice to pass it on to us. I have no problems with them making lots of money and if fact I want them to so that they can continue to offer the services that they perform. I hope that they will all be ethical in the way they go about soliciting business, but usually the free market and forums such as this will help to limit those unethical physcians. Referring back to Falcs comments though, I too hate to see the little guy lose. History has shown however that it usually is the little guy who doesn't come out on top. That is why such forums like this exist so that the little guy can now educate himself and enter into a possible HT fully knowledgeable and informed. This does level the playing field somewhat. Hopefully those that are not providing the latest technology and that do not have good contract policies will be slowly weeded out. Life isn't perfect and it is up to the little guy to do all he can to not be someone that enters a scenario clueless. |
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Celestial Follicle Club Member |
Hey Guys, I am all for the little guy winning!!!!
Hey, I'm one myself!!!!!!! However, we should respect Dr. Feller for being CANDIDLY HONEST, characteristics that are found all too infrequently these days. Any negative connotation that one would attach to his approach has to be dispatched by the fact that he is totally, 100% up-front with what he charges, why he charges it, and the various situations that can and have occurred in his clinic. Given the amount of time Dr. Feller spends here and the amount of people that this forum reaches, we would have heard about Dr. Feller "screwing" someone out of their money a long time ago. That is why I chose to understand his philosophy and believe that he is not quite the unabashed capitalist he says he is Falc, as usual my friend, you ask the questions and bring up great points. I'm not sure we agree/disagree on this one, it just seems we are looking at it from different points on the spectrum!!!!!! Later Guys!!!!! FUE Coordinator for the Shapiro Medical Group. My views and comments are my own and are not necessarily the same as SMG. My advice is not to be taken as medical advice. Be wary of clinics who must use smear tactics to gain business. Go Cubs! 6721 transplanted grafts 13,906 hairs Performed by Dr. Ron Shapiro Dr. Ron Shapiro and Dr. Paul Shapiro are members of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians. |
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Real Hair Club Member |
Falcros,
The success rate for FUE is ONLY lower if performed but an incompetent Dr who forces FUE unlike Dr Feller who performs it correctly with the appropriate size tools. Dr Fellers FUE results and the success of them speak for themselves. Be careful not to tarnish FUE with low yields just because some Dr's cannot perform it correctly, because when FUE is performed correctly by a competent Dr like Dr Feller the results are consistent. If they weren't consistent, Dr Feller wouldn't offer FUE as a technique unlike other Dr's. This is the entire point of his post. Dr Feller is NOT about exploiting patients as you well know, being a religious poster im sure you know all about Dr Feller and his reputation. He is about HONESTY and telling the patient how it actually is. Dr Feller tells it how it is, plain and simple with no frills, just facts. He made me very well aware of the situation i was embarking on with him via FUE and that there was a chance i might not get the outcome i wanted. He was very clear about this and the potential limitations with FUE. Fortunately for me the gamble paid off i am happy to say as you can see from my results. He has an impeccable reputation with regard to ethics and generosity as anyone who has had surgery with him will only confirm. If it was all about the money he would sit there and perform strip surgery day in day out no questions asked. Instead he provides an honest service and answers to all questions with clear concise answers which is rare in this industry. Dr Feller is a very generous man speaking from personal experience which proves he is not all about money but providing a realistic, honest, service to his patients. Every patient that walks through his door is an individual patient with their own personal goal, something Dr Feller truly embraces. People that walk through his door are not numbers or statistics like many other clinics. Dr Feller has one thing in mind with all his patients, the best possible outcome by the best means possible. He is the most honest and direct Dr i have met in this industry which is the reason i opted for my surgery with him. I know this is why many others have chosen to have their surgery with him also. Trying to pull him down on the is just petty IMO. What are you suggesting then that Dr Feller who provides a service second to none, give free surgery away to guys that aren't eligible candidates. He runs a business not a charity. If you don't agree with it then its simple you don't have surgery with him and you got to another FUE Dr. But i recommend you go to one who knows what he is doing and doesn't run the risk of performing poor FUE surgery and wasting precious donor hair if you aren't and eligible FUE patient. Better the devil you know. To give you an example of Dr Fellers integrity, I had to cancel my initail 2nd session with Dr Feller a few days before due to work commitments and phoned to reschedule. I spoke to the Dr directly and just assumed i would lose my $1000 deposit due to the very late cancelation and was prepared to lose it. I didn't lose it and he just remarked how he could do with a day off which i found very humorous. Does this sound like a guy who just has money on his mind?? If you are so concerned about the little guy, pay a thought to ALL the guys that get butchered by ALL these useless clinics, especially in the UK. Would you rather pay $4000 to be told you are not an FUE patient but you can have a top self strip surgery performed on you IF you want..... OR...... pay $10000+ and be butchered by some Dr who ONLY has money on his agenda and couldn't give 2 hoots about you or the outcome of the surgery they perform or the fact for the rest of your life you are going to be disfigured and seeking repair and then spend the next 2/3 years having the work then repaired if your lucky by a Dr like Dr Feller..........get my point?! Hairroot |
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Celestial Follicle Club Member |
Root----- RELAX my man........ No one is questioning Dr. Feller' integrity here.
We do so well on this site simply because we all ask questions and post hypotheticals. You certainly have the right to disagree with anyone here. There is no problem whatsoever with that. Falceros is an important part of this community because he is willing to post the questions necessary to clarify these situations. He does not deserve to be talked down to, and given the amount of time he has spent here and the fact that he has had 3 HT's with 3 seperate Doc's, he is qualified to question or comment on any practice or method used by any Doc. The reason why we are here is to critique and share our experiences with various Doc's. Some Doc's abhor the thought of us ignorant layman questioning their methods. Others, (like Dr. Feller), relish the opportunity to discuss, present, explain and debate just about any topic. Dr. Feller has thick skin and has weathered other criticisms very well and in a direct manner. This site is all about the "little guy" so when you point a finger or direct something at a fellow member that somehow insinuates he is taking a "cheap shot" or is missing the point, it rankles a bit. I agree with your assesment of Dr. Feller. So does Falceros. Just try to keep things a little more even keeled, ok? We benefit from your presence here as well!!!!! Thanks Guys FUE Coordinator for the Shapiro Medical Group. My views and comments are my own and are not necessarily the same as SMG. My advice is not to be taken as medical advice. Be wary of clinics who must use smear tactics to gain business. Go Cubs! 6721 transplanted grafts 13,906 hairs Performed by Dr. Ron Shapiro Dr. Ron Shapiro and Dr. Paul Shapiro are members of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians. |
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Guru Real Hair Club Member |
Hairroot...
I will agree with you 100% that Dr.Feller is totally honest and candid in telling a patient of what can and what cannot be expected in a transplant. I feel he is one of the most honorable surgeons in his field. Personally I have felt this way for quite a while, hence the reason I employed him for my procedure. I have nothing but the utmost respect for him as a person and surgeon. One point I must disagree with you is that FUE will not give you the same high percentage of intact grafts obtained by FUT, it may come close in the hands of the most gifted surgeon but still not as high. FUT by the methods utilized by the top surgeons allows approxiamately 98% graft survival. On the other hand FUE by methods available today by top docs allows only slightly over 90% graft survival which can be due to the damage of transcetting the follicles to the avulsion of vital elements of the graft. It is entirely due to the fact that in strip surgery, graft are transected under a high powered microscope while in FUE they are not. Is this an acceptable tradeoff in terms or results? This would be dependent on the patient. If the needs of the patient for various reasons precludes a strip procedure than I believe it is. I am sure in time, due to the advances in the field of transplantation, FUE will be comparable to FUT in success, but as of today it is slightly lagging. 1,000,000 FUT DR. MOBOGO WHEREABOUTS UNKNOWN |
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My Hair Loss Weblog Celestial Follicle Club Member |
Hairroot-
Thanks for posting your history along with GREAT PICS. Your FUE journey is probably one of the most detailed I've seen and it looks great. Falc & others- great discussion! IMO.....I think what Dr. Feller is offering his patients with respect to FUE is fair. We know Dr. Feller's work is solid so that is not in question. As for charging a $4,000 fee regardless of the FUE success, he does offer them the option to change to strip and as long as he is open about the fact that FUE may or may not work for them in the beginning, I think it's fair. Dr. Feller has committed his time for them that day and cannot reschedule someone else into their slot at the last minute, so, if it doesn't work and they opt to not have strip, his day is shot. Again, as a long as the prospective FUE patient is aware of this in the beginning, I believe it's fair. Just IMO, Falc.....as usual, thanks for honest and unbiased prospective presented with class!! Hairbank 1st HT 1-18-05 - 1200 FUT's 2nd HT 2-15-06 - 3886 FUT's Dr. Wong 3rd HT 4-24-08 - 2415 FUT's Dr. Wong GRAND TOTAL: 7501 GRAFTS current regimen: 1.25mg finasteride every other day My Hair Loss Weblog Disclaimer: I'm not a Doctor (and have never played one on TV |
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"Charlie Don't Surf" Follicular Salvation Club Member |
Falc,
To lighten things up--I do like how your name gets altered from time to time---"Falcros". Its kind of like Velcro, you know how it sticks to you and you just can't shake it. |
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My hair loss site Associate Publisher and Forum Moderator Follicular Grand Wizard |
Hello everyone, again.
Thanks for an interesting discussion. thanks to B Spot and others who have pointed out so correctly that my post is not to question the integrity and ethics of Dr. Feller or bring him down, etc. Hairroot, Perhaps you should re-read my post, especially my first and last sentence. I encourage you to bring your defenses down significantly, however, before you read. Anyway...I understand you are taking this extra personal because you just had an amazing transformation with Dr. Feller, and you feel like you are being attacked because your doctor is being questioned. It's imperative as a forum member AND a human being that you learn to step outside of that mode. Try to be more objective and read the content for what it's worth. BUT, if it helps, allow me to try to reassure you that you do not need to defend someone who is not being attacked. My posts are simply questions and my opinions that have nothing to do with his ethics. I have already stated, personally, that since I know this ahead of time, if I EVER considered FUE, I probably wouldn't go to him simply because I can't afford to be out $4000. I would only EVER consider FUE at this point anyway if I am indeed out of strips (funny how nobody still has refuted this point). Anyway...what you said about FUE is indeed incorrect. Nobody is trying to tarnish FUE, however, even Dr. Feller himself has admitted that FUE is inferior to FUT regarding yields. I quote him from a previous post on this thread: "But I can't afford to lose valuable days of surgery on a hit or miss procedure like megasession FUE, particularly when I know I could have scheduled sure-fire strip surgeries on those days.". Additionally, there have also been many other threads on this forum and others that discuss this. Therefore, I dispute your statement stated below.
Everything else you are saying, I agree with (except your pointless attacks on me) But again, I did not question Dr. Feller's generosity or integrity or his ability as a surgeon. Now attempt to take the other side for a minute...you are now a patient who just signed up for FUE megasession and you knew all the risks because Dr. Feller informed you of them. Dr. Feller has clearly admitted that it's possible for the surgery to be a failure after 40 minutes or so, so you have to admit, the possibility IS THERE. So if you were on the side of the failure here, do you still not see the points that I'm making? I encourage you to "put down your guard" and re-read my post WITHOUT defenses up, and read them as one who is playing devil's advocate to try to protect patients. Do you honestly think that I do not care about all the patients who were butchered? If I care about this particular post, of course, how much more do I care about them? Why do you think I'm still here? I'm here to receive support from fellow members in my journey yes, but also to support and help others make EDUCATED decisions to AVOID those situations. But honestly, your statement here was an obvious attempt to make me look like I'm trying to slander a good doctor and deviate my attention from the point. Your attempt has been denied. I have declared many times how Dr. Feller has done excellent work (not only on this thread, but others), even directing patients to him even though I have no personal ties to him. Can you say you do the same without bias? I am not trying to toot my own horn here...I am far from perfect and have my problems....but if I was here with a negative motive, I think people would have figured that out by now One more point...I never stated that he should give FUE for free to non-candidates. What Dr. Feller stated was, he will only do the surgery on people who are potential candidates (which IS ethical and good), but that there is a chance that once they come in, it won't work, since there is no way to really determine for 100% if they are true candidates or not until AFTER he starts the surgery. What I stated was...In this situation, I believe (personal opinion), that IF the patient can't do strip or is strongly against it, that 1) he give the patient his money back (since these cases are far and few between, it won't happen very often) or 2) ask ahead of time that if the FUE megasession isn't going to work, if the patient is willing to go for strip...if the patient says YES, then Dr. Feller books the FUE megasession...but if the patient says no, then Dr. Feller not even attempt the FUE megasession as to not waste anyone's time, including the doctors. Anyway...I think Dr. Feller is his previous post to me has SEEN that my post was not personal nor questioning his ethics...and I hope that he continues to see that and that you also see it. Falc P.S. Here I am like Falcro/Velcro like it or hate it To learn about how I restored my hair, read my hair restoration story with pictures. See also my hair loss website. Learn how Physicians are Recommend on this Community ------------- As of August 4th 2007 and after approximately 4000 posts as a free patient advocate - I am the Moderator and Associate Publisher of the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center and the Hair Loss Q & A Blog. Read the official announcement here. I am not a medical professional and my words should not be taken as medical advice. All opinions and views shared are my own. Learn how to subscribe to our community newsletters Proud Smile Club Member |
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My hair loss site Associate Publisher and Forum Moderator Follicular Grand Wizard |
Agreed! Falc To learn about how I restored my hair, read my hair restoration story with pictures. See also my hair loss website. Learn how Physicians are Recommend on this Community ------------- As of August 4th 2007 and after approximately 4000 posts as a free patient advocate - I am the Moderator and Associate Publisher of the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center and the Hair Loss Q & A Blog. Read the official announcement here. I am not a medical professional and my words should not be taken as medical advice. All opinions and views shared are my own. Learn how to subscribe to our community newsletters Proud Smile Club Member |
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My hair loss site Associate Publisher and Forum Moderator Follicular Grand Wizard |
Hairroot,
Btw...welcome to the forums Falc To learn about how I restored my hair, read my hair restoration story with pictures. See also my hair loss website. Learn how Physicians are Recommend on this Community ------------- As of August 4th 2007 and after approximately 4000 posts as a free patient advocate - I am the Moderator and Associate Publisher of the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center and the Hair Loss Q & A Blog. Read the official announcement here. I am not a medical professional and my words should not be taken as medical advice. All opinions and views shared are my own. Learn how to subscribe to our community newsletters Proud Smile Club Member |
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Veteran Real Hair Club Member |
what factors make a patient unsuitable for FUE and what numbers constitute a mega-session?
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Real Hair Club Member |
Falcos, you stated:
"since the success rate is still much lower than strip, those patients that undergo FUE should be aware of this" So am i right in thinking that we are debating approximately about 3-5% difference in yield when performed by a competent Dr like Feller?
I am obviously not as knowledgable as you are. Strip yields APPROXIMATELY 98%, lets call it 95% and FUE over 90%.So we are talking 5% give or take. Thanks for correcting me! |
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Guru Real Hair Club Member |
no hair sux...
In response to your question concerning if one is considered a good candidate for FUE, the test of choice is the FOX test. This is employed with a grading scale to determine the feasability of a particular persons ability to provide adequate follicles through FUE. In this test several FUE extractions are initially performed. Further these are examined under microscope and graded on a scale of 1-5 based on if the entire shaft was extracted or if hair fragments were produced. Those that score consistently a 1 or 2 are deemed good candidates, 3 is marginal and 4 or 5 are unacceptable. As far a what is considered a megasession, rule of thumb would be over 1000 grafts. So far I believe the highest FUE megasession has been roughly 2000 grafts. Hope this answers your question. 1,000,000 FUT DR. MOBOGO WHEREABOUTS UNKNOWN |
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Guru Real Hair Club Member |
hairroot...
The 90% is the case in only the most competant hands, most doctors not so gifted would be hard pressed to even produce 75%. On the other hand the 98% is common practice nowadays by most. So in essence the difference can be more substantial than stated. 1,000,000 FUT DR. MOBOGO WHEREABOUTS UNKNOWN |
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Veteran Real Hair Club Member |
thanks, cousin. i've heard of the fox test before but had no idea what it was.
these megasessions, are they considered so because they're taken all in one day? i always thought fue procedures were spread out over several days(i.e., 500 grafts per day). i need probably 2000 - 2500 grafts, but i don't want a strip scar. i hoped fue would do the trick, but i'm not so sure anymore. |
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Follicular Salvation Club Member![]() |
Falc and B spot,
I don't take this thread personally at all, so no problem. I enjoy this banter when I get the time to participate. I find it interesting that you two view the patient as the "little guy" and the doctor as the "big guy". I think this view goes way beyond an HT discussion, but in short if falsely casts the doctor as the "oppressor" and the poor patient in the role of "victim". (Falc I know you don't mean it literally so don't take it to heart) It completely ignores that a MUTUALLY beneficial agreement was struck by two EQUAL individuals PRIOR to execution of the deal that had the benefit of FULL disclosure along with extensive due diligence and informed consent. Both parties are EQUAL, don't you see that? There is no "big guy" little guy". It doesn't matter if it's a doctor/patient, company owner/client, or cab-driver/fare, pretzel vendor/Donald Trump or Donald Trump/ Bank president. Example: Who is the "big guy" in this relationship: Donald Trump/ His new wife's divorce attorney ? There is really only a couple of ways a person can become the "big guy" and that's by FORCE or DECEPTION. In any other situation the so called "little guy" can just walk away. Isn't that obvious??? NervousNelly, I don't think being honest about my profit motives should concern you. I don't think being candid and open about it should be seen as "harsh". Don't you work for a living and hope and expect to earn as much as you feel your efforts are worth? Of course you do, it's human nature. It's only when Force or Deception is used to stifle that human drive that society runs into problems. Look at communist Russia or Socialist Western Europe. Vilifying or shunning profit has ALWAYS proved to be catastrophic and creates the largest number of truly oppressed "little guys" that you can imagine. Everything around you was created and manufactured solely and exclusively by people who had profit motives in mind. That is THE driving force of every slave-free economy since the dawn of mankind. Profit is not a pejorative term and it shouldn't be whispered. I won't. At the same time I don't worship at the "alter of the dollar". I know some that do and they truly disgust me. They give nothing away and account for every penny in their lives like it were their last, an exhaustive and (ironically) costly obsession. Sorry for the lecture, but this thread was screaming out for it. Again, I don't take anything here personally. I never thought my reputation was impugned, nor do I feel I have been "torpedoed". My basic philosophy is that if you remain optimistic, driven, hard working, and above all HONEST with your fellow man, prosperity sneaks up on you. Doesn't matter what your occupation or station in life is, success is an equal opportunity stalker. Dr. Feller Feller Medical, PC Great Neck, NY Dr. Alan Feller is a member of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians Providing Hair Transplants and Platelet Rich Plasma (PRP) Treatments |
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"Charlie Don't Surf" Follicular Salvation Club Member |
Dr. Feller,
This has been an interesting thread. Ofcourse as we all know in any forum like this we type what we want and wait for a response. Quite often what we say is misinterpreted or we don't get that immediate opportunity to elaborate or qualify our statements. It is very clear that none of us questioned your skills or ethics as a doctor and you have acknowledged that as I am glad to see. We do appreciate you engaging in a little banter with us about several different topics--just this time it pertained to your office policies. I'm pretty sure that you understood that I was in your corner backing your policy because it makes sound business sense. I guess I just thought that it might have been best to be a tad bit more toned done when discussing your desire for profits. This is not a bad thing though as you are displaying your honest thoughts and I shouldn't fault you for that. You asked me about my aspirations in my professional life for wanting to achieve as much as I deserve and you are right. The difference is that I try to not display that in front of potential clients. Just a difference between us and neither are right or wrong. I appreciate your response, your honesty and your skills as a physician. You have provided a lot for this forum and this field in general. I respect you and your philosophies and I hope that you continue to be a strong supporter of this site. |
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My hair loss site Associate Publisher and Forum Moderator Follicular Grand Wizard |
Great post Dr. Feller and thanks for participating. I'm glad you saw my message for what it was and didn't take it as an attack on your integrity.
Yes, surely one can debate what defines "big guy" and what defines "little guy". Surely there is no way to determine whether the doctor or patient is more wealthy than the other, but I suppose I define "big guy" in this case as the person in power in the relationship. The doctor is clearly in the drivers seat and calls all the shots. The doctor of course gives some power back to the patient by asking what he/she wants, but once that patient goes under the knife, it's all about trusting that the doctor (in the driver's seat) will do the best job possible for their benefit. Now, of course, I'm not questioning that you do the best job possible to benefit the patient...as I know you do...heck, I've seen what you can do, at least in pictures. BUT, clearly, you are the person in power, and you call all the shots, including the fees collected. Let's be honest...most "little guys" or the person without power in the relationship aka, the patients, are making a BIG investment when they go in for an HT. I know I had to juggle around a lot of funds to afford all the surgery I had. I'm simply stating that for most patients, $4000 is a LOT of money to pay for something IF it ends up being unsuccessful. Surely I agree with what you are saying "...struck by two EQUAL individuals (and the key word here) PRIOR (end key word) to execution of the deal..." Once the deal is struck, however, the patient is now without power, only the doctor has the power, hence becoming the "big guy". Let's look at it closer...who is the one who can effectively change the agreement after the deal has been made? Only the doctor right? If the patient said after you attempted FUE and it failed for whatever reason, "well, I changed my mind, I want all my money back", you could simply say "no, we had an agreement" and in all technicality, the patient would be FORCED (there's your definition coming out on how the "big guy" is played out) to pay up. On the flip side...if you attempted FUE on the patient, and it failed, and the patient was about to hand you the $4000 and you said, "I changed my mind...you can keep your money", the patient (wouldn't first of all, for obvious reasons) couldn't say, "hey, we had a deal, you HAVE to take the money". The very thought of that is indeed obsurd to begin with, but it still holds true, regardless of the fact that it's obviously in the patients favor on my latter example. So really...I agree that since you are up front ahead of time with the patient and they KNOW what they are getting themselves into, that you are doing everything ethically correct. However, since it's POSSIBLE that the patient could be jumping into an agreement based on a heart decision (with the hope of getting more hair), in the event it fails, you may eventually run into one angry patient who will attempt to slander your name. My hopes is that this never happens, as is obviously yours. Now for me...I don't make that many heart based decisions only about anything...I've become far to skeptical about anything and feel that research and thought is always important and required in every decision. Therefore, IF I was a perspective candidate for FUE megasession because I desperately wanted to avoid a scar, I would most likely opt NOT to go with FUE with you, because I don't want to risk losing $4000. It's simply a lot of money to lose for a "little guy" like me. That all being said...my personal opinion is and remains, that since FUE megaession failures are far and few between, especially since you have pioneered the technique to a higher success rate, that in the rare even that it DOES occur, let the patient who is spending his life savings on the hopes of getting some hair back have his money back in the event that he is not a candidate for strip surgery or truly is adamantly against strip. If I do not persuade you, that is of course, fine...what you are doing is fair and ethical...just keep in mind that patients agreeing to your terms MAY be making heart decisions and not truly appreciate and understand the risks, even though you spell it out to them over and over again. It will be important to see through the patients that are placating you simply to get you to do surgery on them, because they are pretty much assuming "a failure won't/can't happen to me", only to become extremely distraught and angry, questioning your talent and ability in the event things don't go their way. (shew...insert big inhale here) Feel free to continue debating with me...I enjoy a good jousting and don't take it personal. I'm glad you don't either. I still hold your practice and work in the highest regard and appreciate your participation on this forum. Falc The patient now has to live with his/her decision with the HOPES that it will be successful and live with the possibly devastating disappointment if it fails, maybe even possibly cursing your name for making a faulty deal (not saying it is...but in the perspective of a failed patient who blew $4000 on nothing, anger can get the best of him/her). To learn about how I restored my hair, read my hair restoration story with pictures. See also my hair loss website. Learn how Physicians are Recommend on this Community ------------- As of August 4th 2007 and after approximately 4000 posts as a free patient advocate - I am the Moderator and Associate Publisher of the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center and the Hair Loss Q & A Blog. Read the official announcement here. I am not a medical professional and my words should not be taken as medical advice. All opinions and views shared are my own. Learn how to subscribe to our community newsletters Proud Smile Club Member |
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My hair loss site Associate Publisher and Forum Moderator Follicular Grand Wizard |
Hairroot, yes, you are correct, if we are indeed talking about just the success rate of strip, in the hands of a skilled physician, the percentage is not that far apart...so perhaps I should take back the part of my sentence that says "MUCH lower", but it is indeed lower, and as Cousin_It pointed out, the percentage of yield can go down in the hands of less qualified surgeons. However, when looking at FUE as a whole, I also stated that it's inferior to FUT, and I meant it for many reasons. I'll list them here: 1. FUE has a lower growth yield (as discussed above) 2. A megasession of FUE is far inferior to that of strip. 1000 grafts max out of FUE hardly compares to 5000+ for strip. 3 Cost, though secondary to the other points, is a factor contributing to it's inferiority, just about twice the price per graft as Strip. 4. There are fewer candidates for FUE than there are for strip. And as a side point, though your head shows an impeccable donor area, this is not always the case and scarring is still possible. Keep in mind I've seen some pretty impressive trichophytic strip scars as well, where when shaved down to a 1 clip, you still can't see the scar. BUT, this also, like FUE is not an exact science and possible that the scar won't be perfect every time. So...though I may have overstated the lesser success yield of FUE, FUE is still inferior for most patient with a severe balding scalp because the sheer number of grafts they will need is more sufficiently achived with strip. This, however, is not to knock in any way the ability of Dr. Feller nor FUE as a practice. It just seems to me that FUE has a long way to go before it can really compete with strip. Now for patients like you with minimal loss who used FUE to redevelop a nice hairline, since you had no loss in the crown or mid section, FUE was apparently a perfect solution for you. And I'm happy for you. But it's just not feasible for everyone. And now I have writer's cramp Falc To learn about how I restored my hair, read my hair restoration story with pictures. See also my hair loss website. Learn how Physicians are Recommend on this Community ------------- As of August 4th 2007 and after approximately 4000 posts as a free patient advocate - I am the Moderator and Associate Publisher of the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center and the Hair Loss Q & A Blog. Read the official announcement here. I am not a medical professional and my words should not be taken as medical advice. All opinions and views shared are my own. Learn how to subscribe to our community newsletters Proud Smile Club Member |
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