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| <Jolly>
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I am amazed how low doctors can stoop.
Sahil has had a bad ht. http://hair-restoration-info.com/eve/forums/a/albumcomm...6060861/m/8331010713 His doctor, Dr. Rajput charged for 2400 grafts and placed what looks like 1000. Sahil voiced his displeasure and Dr. Rajput has gone ahead and replied on this site. Since, he is replying, I assume he is reading this post and will be gracious enough to stand up and answer. First and foremost doctor, you should never reveal a patient's real name identity. If you had to post your side of the story, you should have posted on Sahil's thread instead of an obscure long winded thread that has run out its life. http://hair-restoration-info.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/746...861/m/1601050312/p/9 |
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| <Jolly>
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Dr Rajput,
Do you charge by the grafts or by the hair? You led Sahil to believe he will be getting 2400 grafts and now you are speaking of 2400 hair. Quote - So you loose 3000 - 5000 wewak hair instead of strengthening or growing them and grow back only 2400 in place of these. Net gain is unimpressive. Unquote I think you are just covering up your a**. Next, how many actual grafts did you plant for Sahil? This is Sahil's picture. Think well before answering. Is this 2400, 1200, 800 grafts or you just dont know?  Why do you wish to insult our intelligence by saying something like this... Quote No one counts the number of grafts while implanting. We count the density and the size of the strip to be harvested is decided accordingly to yeild the requiered number of grafts. Unquote So you mean to say all the Coalition doctors telling the exact numbers of grafts are lying? Before accepting the fee and performing the operation, do you tell the patient that the graft numbers will be too few? Or is that an afterthought! Quote The grafts get laid out far apart and cannot give the new dense looks desired. It does not meet the dreams of the preson. Unquote Doctor, my honest advise to you is to own up that you performed a transplant even though you are not competent to deliver the state of the art. Thereafter, apologize to the patient for what you have done and, if your conscience permits, return his money to him. |
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Veteran Real Hair Club Member |
Dear Friends,
First and formost I would thank all you guys for standing up for me. My special thanx to Jolly , Thank a lot brother. Dear Doctor ( Mr.Rajesh rajput) I was told by you that I don’t require a transplant and only medicine alone will be sufficient to grow back the hair. But after two months of medicine you told me that the only way out is a Hair Transplant . Initially you told me that only 1600 grafts ( and not 1600 hair) is required and few days before the surgery you told me that I require 2400 grafts ( and not 2400 hair). I have paid you Rs 120000 for 2400 grafts and not for 2400 hair as mentioned by you. You also told me that each graft will have 3 hair which means 2400 grafts can give rise to 6000-7000 hair. And now you say its 2400 hairs ????? Then why did you charge Rs 12000 for 2400 hair as quoted by you. I am having my medicines religiously and its more than 3 months now but I find no change. Dear doctor please remember that every patient who come to you is not filthy rich . I come form a middle class family and it took 1 year for me to save Rs 80000 and Rs 40000 I had taken as loan which I am still repaying . For you I might be just another patient , but remember for me you were a only source of hope. I am here not to blame any one , May be I didn’t do more research before finalizing my doctor. Well this could be a lesson to others . Regards Sahil |
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Real Hair Club Member |
Guys,
I am not his patient yet, although part of this forum for last 2 years I am not active. While going through thread I came across Sahil's thread and requested doctor to reply. The whole issue seems to be Dr. Rajput should clarrify how many grafts/hair is transpanted on Sahil and whether Sahil got whatever money he paid for? Blaming or using bad language is not the way to ove forward, instead lets talk to doctor through forum and request him to give answer to these questions. Regards, Nilesh |
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I feel forum should act as pressure group on doctors and this will help patients to expect greater accountibility and trasparency from doctors.
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Guru Real Hair Club Member |
Nilesh,
Did you read the response from Rajput? He is blaming the patient for the result. Issue is not only with the number of grafts. First of all, Rs.1,20,000 is huge amount. This is the highest price I ever heard any doctor charging in India for 2,400 grafts. And the worst is, I can't even see a 1000 grafts there. Look at the work. Either the grafts or incisions are big. He gave no proper shape to the crown. Grafts are placed too far apart. The best thing the doctor can do now is to give him back the money. But looking at the doctor's attitude, expecting anything from him is useless. |
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Guru Real Hair Club Member |
Sahil,
B+.. Don't loose hope. Good days are ahead. Wait for the current HT to grow, save some money and go to a good doctor. Have you ever used Toppik? Try it and see how it works for you. It is available in Mumbai (Call to 26740022). |
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| <Jolly>
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I wish I could be more like you Jagdish. You are always so balanced and helpful. I get mad too soon. |
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| <Jolly>
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Nilesh, take care. You have only 3 posts here, 2 of them on this thread and the doctor took liberty of using your name. Its ok that you use this name for blogging. But, for the likes of me, I dont use my real name to blog. If I mail a doctor and he posts in such irresponsible way (I am sure he did not ask you before using your name), I will be ruined. I havent seen a single example of any other doctor behaving in such a cavalier way. Moreover, a weekend has passed and he has not replied. Can you email him again? Tell him there are serious issues at hand and if he wishes to retain any shred of credibility he should come here and post his response. A reply, any reply, will be better than none. |
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Associate Publisher and Forum Moderator Follicular Grand Wizard  |
The bottom line is...
2400 grafts is NOT enough grafts for that level of hair loss. Will there be a cosmetic difference? Some for sure...but density will be significantly lacking. The grafts are placed significantly far apart, and it seems that the incisions made were made with larger instrumentation. This is clearly a substandard HT. BUT... Sahill, All you can do is wait at this point. I strongly recommend that you fly to the states or Canada to see a top notch surgeon if you consider another HT. Falc To learn about how I restored my hair, read my hair restoration story with pictures. See also my hair loss weblog. Learn how Physicians are Recommend on this Community ------------- As of August 4th 2007 and after approximately 4000 posts as a free patient advocate - I am the Moderator and Associate Publisher of the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center and the Hair Loss Q & A Blog. Read the official announcement here. I am not a medical professional and my words should not be taken as medical advice. All opinions and views shared are my own. Learn how to subscribe to our community newsletters Proud Smile Club Member |
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| <Jolly>
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Dr. Rajput,
You have still not replied to the questions I asked you on this thread. I hope you will take time out of your busy schedule to answer. You claim Sahil was given 2400 grafts. Please rest assured that paint or photoshop will allow us to verify the actual numbers. All one needs is to zoom in and count the grafts. Do you have any intention of returning Sahil's money straightforward or do you wish the consumer forums to intervene? Doctors are held in high regard in my childhood. I can not imagine anytime when a doctor will do what you are doing? Plz redeem yourself. You did a mistake. Be a man. Apologize to Sahil and return his money. Thats a fair thing to do. The least you can do. |
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| <Jolly>
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See Nilesh, Its been almost 2 weeks and the doctor has not responded. Thats what is abominable. He took Sahil's money but when it comes to accountability he seems to have done a Harry potter vanishing trick. I hope the plastic surgeons of India throw him out of their fraternity. my family physician was horrified when he saw this thread. His words "doctors like these are not meant to exist". he should start a LIC selling business. Doctros, specially plastic surgeons, are supposed to make the person look lots better, not to prey on their insecurities the way this one has done. Is there any organization of Indian plastic surgeons? |
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Real Hair Club Member |
Hi,
I want a hair transplant of real hairs in India. I have seen what happened to sahil. Can any body advise me of a good doctor in India. Thanks |
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Veteran Real Hair Club Member |
Dear members of this forum,
i am not regularly reading your posts. I have done 2400 grafts usinf stick and place technique. This if you know pLACES GRAFTS WITH A HYPODERMIC MEEDLE AND MAKES SMALL PUNCTURES. 3 months is too lessa period to appriciate growth of the grafts. The growth will start at 3-4 months and then continue 1 to 1.5cm every months. Patients take 6-7 months to see an appriciable result. Pleae continue medicines and wait. A good result is sure to come. Apart from all said and done, I have no aptient named Sahil. So if not on the forum you may please reveal your date of surgery and name on my personal e-mail ID drrajeshrajput@gmail.com. The area seen in the picture is not the only area to be covered in 2400 grafts. These grafts are distributed from the front to back all over the frontal, vertex and crown. I am surprised that members have immediately calculated the numbers done and are already enjoying the doctor bashing to the best of their ability. I habe always done the same number of units as promised to the patient. I also stand by my approach to count the units while harvesting. If you do not harvst the required number of units from the donor area, how will you be sure of getting a correct yeild? And once you know how many grafts are taken, you place all of them and you are sure of having delivered the correct numbers. I am not welll versed with your trends of following one thresd or another and had no idea of doing something unusual during the earlier replies. I stand by what I have performed and the patient should wait to see a good result. Never have I implanted less and charged more. In fact as the patient mentioned, many pf these youngstes coming for a transplant have been happy to grow back all their hair only with my Cyclical Medicine program. All members please wait and see the outcome at 6-7 months. Do not start passing remarks and verdicts before knowing all details. If you are right there is no need to hide your identity or use fictious names. I replied sincerely though there was never a patient by this name, but only one of my patients had chosen to go ahead wiht the procedure without waiting for 4 months of medicine to act. Please call for pictures in all views and revise your comments.
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Veteran Real Hair Club Member |
Just wait for 6-7 months till this patients ahir grows and you will see a good result. DO not jump to conclusions. If you know the real name of this patient please send me a personal mail, it will help me in giving more detail replies on the forum without disclosing his identity to the forum.
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I would suggest you get pictures from all angles show the frontal, crown and vertex before you attempt to count the number of grafts. You will definetly count hte correct number done. Also note that not all grafts show a black scab as i de-epithelise my grafts - or to say remove the epidermis to have faster healing.
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The Rs 1,20,000 charged includes Assistant fees, Theater charges for 6 hours, nursing charges, consumables and service tax. The entire amount is not the surgeons fees for the procedure. But you assumed this is collected by me and took the liberty to fire. It is surprising.
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Associate Publisher and Forum Moderator Follicular Grand Wizard |
Dr. Rajesh Rajput,
Whereas I believe that the final outcome of a hair transplant should not be evaluated until 12 months, it is obvious from the postoperative photos that the grafts are spaced very far apart. For the degree of baldness on this patient - 2400 grafts will not make a significant difference in this area. What is the size of the needle you use to make recipient incisions? The incisions appear larger than what is standardly used today by world class hair transplant physicians doing truly ultra refined follicular unit transplantation. In addition, you have yet to address Pat's message to you: ------------------------- Dr. Rajesh Rajput, In addition to your patient care issues, I see that you have illegally copied the hair loss animations from our web community and removed all references and links to this community. This is clear violation of US copyright law. What kind of ethics do you have or not have to blatantly copy graphics and animations from our website and then strip out the references to this community? We offer free animations to others on the condition that the links to this community remain intact. You have intentionally removed these links and references and you are now in violation of copyright law. If this situation is not remedied I will take action. Patrick Hennessey, Publisher of this site. --------------------------- Since it is obvious you have not remedied this situation, I will be sending a note to Pat. Regards, Falc To learn about how I restored my hair, read my hair restoration story with pictures. See also my hair loss weblog. Learn how Physicians are Recommend on this Community ------------- As of August 4th 2007 and after approximately 4000 posts as a free patient advocate - I am the Moderator and Associate Publisher of the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center and the Hair Loss Q & A Blog. Read the official announcement here. I am not a medical professional and my words should not be taken as medical advice. All opinions and views shared are my own. Learn how to subscribe to our community newsletters Proud Smile Club Member |
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Veteran Real Hair Club Member |
About this patient who claims to be operated by me and is not having the same number of grafts or a good growth. I suggest you form a action group of a few volunteers who can visit the hospital where I do my transplants, verify the details and present the truth. Come out of this vertual world of e-mails and pictures and abusing and face reality in this matter. I shall give my address and cell number to the members you select. Ask them to evaluate the truth.
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