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Can anybody give me a good recomendation to a good surgeon in the wisconsin/illinois area? Thank you.
 
Posts: 2 | Registered: March 06, 2008Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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I live in Illinois and just traveled through Wisc to go to SMG in Minnesota, led by Dr Ron Shapiro. If you must stay in Wisconsin then I believe then a guy named grencheff or something like that . He considered average at best. Then in Illinois there Dr Konior. I live real close to him but in the end I wasnt convinced he was for me for more then one reason. .Then there Ron Shapiro in Minn,about a half hour from Wisc. border. Hes considered a leader in the field has a great staff and a down to earth great guy. Most importantly though he gets gret results on a consistent basis
 
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Do not let geography be an issue Wink By opening up the radar slightly you can get one of the best clinics out there Smile


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I love all the winks Wink Your right though I substituted and 8 minute drive with a 6 1/2 {80mph} hour drive and couldnt be more happy. The good thing is Mike has one of the top clinics in his back yard.
 
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Thank you. I will be looking into these guys.

Is there anything specific I should be asking?
 
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Yes lots of pictures. I would stay away from Grenchoff or whatever his name is.
 
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PGP,

I don't think it's fair to advise a seeking patient to stay away from Dr. Gencheff.

Dr. Gencheff is recommended on the Hair Transplant Network for performing solid follicular unit hair transplantation (see Pat's visitation and detailed review of his clinic).

To see his profile and patient photos, click here.

Falc


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Posts: 10707 | Location: PA | Registered: October 02, 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Unless all of a sudden he has improved ,he use to work out of Des Plaines Illinois and I know personally one fella who was a victim of minigraft hairline and poor growth up and didnt address the poor growth.
I also researched him back in the day along with all the surronding clinics ,like Konior Haber Wolf Shapiro,Parsley and came away very unimpressed with him and the fib I caught him in didnt help.The poor reviews Ive read also come into play on how I feel.
I also havent seen him display any new work on here. Maybe Im not being fair or a little harsh but I did mention him so now Balding Mike at least knows there is someone in Wisc.
I did see the visit with Pat but in my eyes that one trip doesnt makeup for other trips by patients that were less then desirable. The "postop" work during Pats trip does look good though.
So I geuss to say stay away wasnt fair so instead Ill say be careful and RESEARCH RESEARCH RESEARCH!!!!
 
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PGP,

I think your warning was FAIR, that is what this forum is about, isn't it? Maybe it would have been better to include the guts of why you disapproved of him in the first post, but still I would appreciate your concern if I was considering that particular doctor!

MbM
 
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Why do so many people try to stay as close as to home as possible? I understand work,family,etc. With any surgery i would do my frickin' research, find the best doc, and go wherever he is and do it right!!! So many guys get themselves in even worse shape by thinking small.
 
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I hear ya Vince but in this guy's defense, this was only his second post. And by it, he should now figure out that geography should not play a role in which doctor to choose. Period.

Balding Mike- I live in Chicago and am traveling to Canada to have my procedure. I certainly would have liked to stay within the states and even locally. But after research, research and a little more research I found that the best doctor to suit my needs was across the border.

I would suggest visiting the 'patient photo albums' bit on this website. Also, posting pics of yourself will always get you helpful, honest, and suggestive opinions!

Good Luck, Champ.

MbM
 
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PGP,

Have you seen / read any recent negative patient experiences and seen poor photos of Dr. Gencheff's work? If so, please refer me to any threads that might be helpful because truthfully, this is the first time I've heard anyone mention his name in a less than positive light. As you know, patient provided experiences and photos are taken very seriously and are part of our overall evaluation process.

Thanks,

Falc


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Posts: 10707 | Location: PA | Registered: October 02, 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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I agree with vincehair, Spend the extra cash and get it done right. You are spending alot Of $$$$$$$ anyway. Its like buying a 50 inch lcd/plasma get the warranty or you might be just unsattisfied if it does break for some reason. Pay the extra and protect yourself. It actualy is not a TV,But if you do get a bad ht,you will be a TV for everyone to watch and see
 
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No I havent seen any recent work from him good or bad. Thats something else to consider in my eyes. Im talking from close to 10 years ago. I think alot of it had to do with the Madison hair clinic here in Illinois. When I was searching and looking for someone close by I found him and at the time remember doing alot of research,and ruling him out because of negative things I read about the clinic and especially after talking to him .Then I had a girlfriend whos brother went to him in and told me what a setback he had in Des plaines Illinois Madison hair. Poor growth and minis in hairline was the reason for displeasure.. I saw that Pat went to see him and I will admit hes come a long way .The work when Pat was there looked solid but lack of after pictures and absolutly no patient testimomies, or any kind of presence on here ,or anywhere keeps me from recommending based on what little we have of him. I was a little premature in telling him to stay away. So Ill change it to this.
Balding Mike it is a fact based on my own personal research Dr Shapiro and Konior are two doctors that deliver great results on a consistent basis. Dr Grencoff hasnt proven that, at least not on here or any other forums.
It sure wouldnt hurt to make the drive and see what he has to offer these days. Maybe hes a hidden gem in cheesehead land that has tightened up his game
Hey Falc how about requesting he post some of his recent work?
 
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I will admit to one thing though .Im super paranoid when it comes to hair restoration doctors. If Im not 110% convinced your the REAL deal,and will deliver superb results 9 out of 10 times, I want nothing to do with you.
I dont take chances anymore. Thats what vegas is for. I want the odds in my favor. See what you did to me Nuhart!
 
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Im talking from close to 10 years ago


Ok, then in my opinion, telling a patient to avoid a physician based on a 10 year old consult was a bit unfair. However, like anyone else, you are entitled to your opinion. Thanks for clarifying your reasons.

I do agree with you however that thoroughly researching physicians is vital to ensure a successful hair transplant experience. Consult with physicians and speak with, view photos, and meet with patients if possible. Asking for a referral list of patients is especially important if no evidence of recent results can be found online. In my opinion, Dr. Gencheff is worth considering and consulting with.

Best wishes,

Falc


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Its was more then just the consult, but thats fine. If it was only about the consult I would roast Konior everytime I heard his name ,but I try not to because I see a steady stream of happy patients.
Knowing what you know now and you lived in Wisc and had Shapiro and Konior within a 4 hour drive would you stay in Wisc. If so I hope its not from 3 nice afters and one set post op pics . Maybe you know or saw something I never did. Some people are happy with a corvette but Id rather drive a ferrari or lambo. I want the best doctor for anyone who asks not just a reliable substitute. We know how SMG would handle a case if things didnt go perfect.Who knows what some of these other clinics will do. This is obviously only my opinion ,but its based on a multitude of reasons
 
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Originally posted by PLEASE GROW PLEASE:
Its was more then just the consult, but thats fine. If it was only about the consult I would roast Konior everytime I heard his name ,but I try not to because I see a steady stream of happy patients.
Knowing what you know now and you lived in Wisc and had Shapiro and Konior within a 4 hour drive would you stay in Wisc. If so I hope its not from 3 nice afters and one set post op pics . Maybe you know or saw something I never did. Some people are happy with a corvette but Id rather drive a ferrari or lambo. I want the best doctor for anyone who asks not just a reliable substitute. We know how SMG would handle a case if things didnt go perfect.Who knows what some of these other clinics will do. This is obviously only my opinion ,but its based on a multitude of reasons


You really dont know what in the hell you are talking about and are one of the least qualified people on this entire forum to be giving advice.

You want to push Dr. Shapiro for the fine work he did on you, great, but when it comes to you trashing other Doctors you dont know anything about you should keep your mouth shut.

Just my .02 Smile
 
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Ok big mouth tell me what you know. Quit swinging on Falcs nuts just for the sake of it .Give some imput ,do something. Nobody trashed anyone. I was just pointing out my opinion on how I felt. At least I have an opinion based on an expierence with Grenhoff and I at least know one guy that has been to him and at least I know how deeply at one time I evaluated him.
As knowledgeable as Falc is I probably have a little more expertise when it comes to him.
So put down the zima and turn on lifetime little boy
 
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Just my .02 Wink
 
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